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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm, page_alloc: disallow __GFP_COMP in alloc_pages_exact()
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 13:09:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190314120939.GK7473@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hd0mtsm84.wl-tiwai@suse.de>

On Thu 14-03-19 12:56:43, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 12:36:26 +0100,
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu 14-03-19 11:30:03, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> > > On 3/14/19 11:15 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Thu 14-03-19 10:42:49, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> > > >> alloc_pages_exact*() allocates a page of sufficient order and then splits it
> > > >> to return only the number of pages requested. That makes it incompatible with
> > > >> __GFP_COMP, because compound pages cannot be split.
> > > >> 
> > > >> As shown by [1] things may silently work until the requested size (possibly
> > > >> depending on user) stops being power of two. Then for CONFIG_DEBUG_VM, BUG_ON()
> > > >> triggers in split_page(). Without CONFIG_DEBUG_VM, consequences are unclear.
> > > >> 
> > > >> There are several options here, none of them great:
> > > >> 
> > > >> 1) Don't do the spliting when __GFP_COMP is passed, and return the whole
> > > >> compound page. However if caller then returns it via free_pages_exact(),
> > > >> that will be unexpected and the freeing actions there will be wrong.
> > > >> 
> > > >> 2) Warn and remove __GFP_COMP from the flags. But the caller wanted it, so
> > > >> things may break later somewhere.
> > > >> 
> > > >> 3) Warn and return NULL. However NULL may be unexpected, especially for
> > > >> small sizes.
> > > >> 
> > > >> This patch picks option 3, as it's best defined.
> > > > 
> > > > The question is whether callers of alloc_pages_exact do have any
> > > > fallback because if they don't then this is forcing an always fail path
> > > > and I strongly suspect this is not really what users want. I would
> > > > rather go with 2) because "callers wanted it" is much less probable than
> > > > "caller is simply confused and more gfp flags is surely better than
> > > > fewer".
> > > 
> > > I initially went with 2 as well, as you can see from v1 :) but then I looked at
> > > the commit [2] mentioned in [1] and I think ALSA legitimaly uses __GFP_COMP so
> > > that the pages are then mapped to userspace. Breaking that didn't seem good.
> > 
> > It used the flag legitimately before because they were allocating
> > compound pages but now they don't so this is just a conversion bug.
> 
> We still use __GFP_COMP for allocation of the sound buffers that are
> also mmapped to user-space.  The mentioned commit above [2] was
> reverted later.

Yes, I understand that part. __GFP_COMP makes sense on a comound page.
But if you are using alloc_pages_exact then the flag doesn't make sense
because split out should already do what you want. Unless I am missing
something.

> But honestly speaking, I'm not sure whether we still need the compound
> pages.  The change was introduced long time ago (commit f3d48f0373c1
> in 2005).  Is it superfluous nowadays...?

AFAIU alloc_pages_exact should do do what you need.

> > Why should we screw up the helper for that reason? Or put in other words
> > why a silent fix up adds any risk?
> 
> IMO, it's good to catch the incompatible usage as early as possible,
> so that others won't hit the same failure again like I did.  There
> aren't so many users of __GFP_COMP in the whole tree, after all.

Yes, completely agreed and warning with a fixup sounds like the safest
option to me. Returning NULL is risky because it essentially introduces a
permanent failure mode as already pointed out.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-14 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-14  9:39 [PATCH] mm, page_alloc: disallow __GFP_COMP in alloc_pages_exact() Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-14  9:42 ` [PATCH v2] " Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-14 10:15   ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-14 10:30     ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-14 11:36       ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-14 11:56         ` Takashi Iwai
2019-03-14 12:09           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2019-03-14 13:15             ` Takashi Iwai
2019-03-14 13:29               ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-14 16:52                 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-03-14 17:37                   ` Hugh Dickins
2019-03-14 18:00                     ` Takashi Iwai
2019-03-14 18:15                       ` Hugh Dickins
2019-03-14 20:13                         ` Takashi Iwai
2019-03-14 18:51   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-03-18 12:21   ` [PATCH v3] " Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-18 12:43     ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-19  8:45     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-03-19  9:47     ` Mel Gorman

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