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From: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] xfs: merge adjacent io completions of the same type
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 08:51:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190329125129.GA11664@bfoster> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190328210628.GJ23020@dastard>

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 08:06:28AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 08:17:44AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 10:10:10AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 08:06:34PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > From: Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
> > > > 
> > > > When we're processing an ioend on the list of io completions, check to
> > > > see if the next items on the list are both adjacent and of the same
> > > > type.  If so, we can merge the completions to reduce transaction
> > > > overhead.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
> > > > ---
> > > 
> > > I'm curious of the value of this one... what situations allow for
> > > batching on the ioend completion side that we haven't already accounted
> > > for in the ioend construction side?
> > 
> > I was skeptical too, but Dave (I think?) pointed out that writeback can
> > split into 1GB chunks so it actually is possible to end up with adjacent
> > ioends.
> 
> When there amount of writeback for a single file exceeds the
> measured bandwidth of the device, or there are a number of dirty files
> that the writeback bandwidthis shared between, then writeback code
> breaks up the amount of data that can be written in any single
> writepages call to any single inode. This can get down as low as
> MIN_WRITEBACK_PAGES (which ends up being 4MB of pages), and so we
> can end up writing large files in lots of very small chunks.
> 

Ok, so in general this has more to do with working around higher level
writeback behavior than improving our own ioend batching/mapping from a
single ->writepages() instance.

Taking a look at the writeback code, this sounds more relevant to
background writeback because integrity writeback uses the LONG_MAX chunk
size for ->writepages() calls. Background writeback calculates a chunk
size based on bandwidth, etc. as you've noted and looks like it rotors
across dirty inodes in a given superblock until a higher level writeback
count is achieved. Makes sense.

> > So I wrote this patch and added a tracepoint, and lo it
> > actually did trigger when there's a lot of data to flush out, and we
> > succeed at allocating a single extent for the entire delalloc reservation.
> 
> I'd expect it to fire more when there are lots of large files being
> written concurently than just for single files (i.e. the writeback
> interleaving fragmentation problem that speculative delalloc
> avoids).
> 
> > > The latter already batches until we
> > > cross a change in fork type, extent state, or a break in logical or
> > > physical contiguity. The former looks like it follows similar logic for
> > > merging with the exceptions of allowing for merges of physically
> > > discontiguous extents and disallowing merges of those with different
> > > append status. That seems like a smallish window of opportunity to me..
> > > am I missing something?
> > 
> > Yep, it's a smallish window; small discontiguous writes don't benefit
> > here at all.
> > 
> > > If that is the gist but there is enough benefit for the more lenient
> > > merging, I also wonder whether it would be more efficient to try and
> > > also accomplish that on the construction side rather than via completion
> > > post-processing. For example, could we abstract a single ioend to cover
> > > an arbitrary list of bio/page -> sector mappings with the same higher
> > > level semantics? We already have a bio chaining mechanism, it's just
> > > only used for when a bio is full. Could we reuse that for dealing with
> > > physical discontiguity?
> 
> While possible, I think that's way more complex and problematic than
> merging successful completions optimistically...
> 

Note again that the suggestion above applies only to ioend batching
within a single ->writepages() instance as opposed to across multiple
writebacks. It's less relevant given the context you added above around
potentially optimizing background writeback completion across multiple
->writepages() calls.

That said, I don't agree that it's complex or problematic to implement.
I was going to elaborate, but on looking again I realize that it's easy
enough to just try. See the appended diff[1]. This allows a single ioend
to cover multiple logically contiguous but physically discontiguous
extents so long as they have the same general ioend state (i.e.,
unwritten, etc.). This is not thoroughly tested of course, but works
for a couple quick tests.

There are caveats to this having now taken a closer look. This doesn't
reduce transaction load for COW or unwritten extents because we
convert/remap with a transaction per extent either way. I suppose it
could reduce ioend memory allocation overhead a bit and potentially the
need to allocate multiple append transactions in some cases.

> In reality, we need some numbers to prove whether this is worthwhile
> or not. If we can't find obvious workloads where it actually makes a
> difference (either in throughput, IO latency or CPU usage) then,
> like most things, we write off as an interesting experiement that
> didn't provide the benefit we thought it might...
> 

Agreed.

Brian

[1] Quick hack to batch physically discontiguous extents in a single
ioend.

diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_aops.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_aops.c
index 3619e9e8d359..c9bed8f3cb90 100644
--- a/fs/xfs/xfs_aops.c
+++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_aops.c
@@ -654,13 +654,13 @@ xfs_add_to_ioend(
 	if (!wpc->ioend ||
 	    wpc->fork != wpc->ioend->io_fork ||
 	    wpc->imap.br_state != wpc->ioend->io_state ||
-	    sector != bio_end_sector(wpc->ioend->io_bio) ||
 	    offset != wpc->ioend->io_offset + wpc->ioend->io_size) {
 		if (wpc->ioend)
 			list_add(&wpc->ioend->io_list, iolist);
 		wpc->ioend = xfs_alloc_ioend(inode, wpc->fork,
 				wpc->imap.br_state, offset, bdev, sector);
-	}
+	} else if (sector != bio_end_sector(wpc->ioend->io_bio))
+		xfs_chain_bio(wpc->ioend, wbc, bdev, sector);
 
 	if (!__bio_try_merge_page(wpc->ioend->io_bio, page, len, poff, true)) {
 		if (iop)

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-29 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-27  3:05 [RFC PATCH] xfs: implement per-inode writeback completion Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-27  3:06 ` [RFC PATCH] xfs: merge adjacent io completions of the same type Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-28 14:10   ` Brian Foster
2019-03-28 15:17     ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-28 16:46       ` Brian Foster
2019-03-28 21:06       ` Dave Chinner
2019-03-29 12:51         ` Brian Foster [this message]
2019-03-31 22:24           ` Dave Chinner
2019-04-01 14:59             ` Brian Foster
2019-03-28 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH] xfs: implement per-inode writeback completion Brian Foster
2019-03-28 15:00   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-28 16:24     ` Brian Foster

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