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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	huang ying <huang.ying.caritas@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/16] locking/rwsem: Ensure an RT task will not spin on reader
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 10:52:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190418085227.GV12232@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1c37b8f2-232e-7ced-0483-31c8c6a4ffd1@redhat.com>

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 02:47:07PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> >> @@ -566,13 +573,28 @@ static bool rwsem_optimistic_spin(struct rw_semaphore *sem)
> >>  		}
> >>  
> >>  		/*
> >> -		 * When there's no owner, we might have preempted between the
> >> -		 * owner acquiring the lock and setting the owner field. If
> >> -		 * we're an RT task that will live-lock because we won't let
> >> -		 * the owner complete.
> >> +		 * An RT task cannot do optimistic spinning if it cannot
> >> +		 * be sure the lock holder is running or live-lock may
> >> +		 * happen if the current task and the lock holder happen
> >> +		 * to run in the same CPU.
> >> +		 *
> >> +		 * When there's no owner or is reader-owned, an RT task
> >> +		 * will stop spinning if the owner state is not a writer
> >> +		 * at the previous iteration of the loop. This allows the
> >> +		 * RT task to recheck if the task that steals the lock is
> >> +		 * a spinnable writer. If so, it can keeps on spinning.
> >> +		 *
> >> +		 * If the owner is a writer, the need_resched() check is
> >> +		 * done inside rwsem_spin_on_owner(). If the owner is not
> >> +		 * a writer, need_resched() check needs to be done here.
> >>  		 */
> >> -		if (!sem->owner && (need_resched() || rt_task(current)))
> >> -			break;
> >> +		if (owner_state != OWNER_WRITER) {
> >> +			if (need_resched())
> >> +				break;
> >> +			if (is_rt_task && (prev_owner_state != OWNER_WRITER))
> >> +				break;
> >> +		}
> >> +		prev_owner_state = owner_state;
> >>  
> >>  		/*
> >>  		 * The cpu_relax() call is a compiler barrier which forces
> > This patch confuses me mightily. I mean, I see what it does, but I can't
> > figure out why. The Changelog is just one big source of confusion.
> 
> Sorry for confusing you. If count and owner are separate, there is a
> time lag where the owner is NULL, but the lock is not free yet.

Right.

> Similarly, the lock could be free but another task may have stolen the
> lock if the waiter bit isn't set.

> In the former case,

(free)

> an extra iteration gives it more time for the lock holder to release
> the lock.


> In the latter case,

(stolen)

> if the new lock owner is a writer and set owner in time,
> the RT task can keep on spinning. Will clarify that in the commit log
> and the comment.

Blergh.. so by going around once extra, you hope ->owner will be set
again and we keep spinning. And this is actually measurable.

Yuck yuck yuck. I much prefer getting rid of that hole, as you do later
on in the series, that would avoid this complecity. Let me continue
reading...




  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-18  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-13 17:22 [PATCH v4 00/16] locking/rwsem: Rwsem rearchitecture part 2 Waiman Long
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 01/16] locking/rwsem: Prevent unneeded warning during locking selftest Waiman Long
2019-04-18  8:04   ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Waiman Long
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 02/16] locking/rwsem: Make owner available even if !CONFIG_RWSEM_SPIN_ON_OWNER Waiman Long
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 03/16] locking/rwsem: Remove rwsem_wake() wakeup optimization Waiman Long
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 04/16] locking/rwsem: Implement a new locking scheme Waiman Long
2019-04-16 13:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-16 13:32     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-16 14:18       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-16 14:42         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 05/16] locking/rwsem: Merge rwsem.h and rwsem-xadd.c into rwsem.c Waiman Long
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 06/16] locking/rwsem: Code cleanup after files merging Waiman Long
2019-04-16 16:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-16 16:17     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-16 19:45       ` Waiman Long
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 07/16] locking/rwsem: Implement lock handoff to prevent lock starvation Waiman Long
2019-04-16 14:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-16 20:26     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-16 21:07       ` Waiman Long
2019-04-17  7:13         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 16:22           ` Waiman Long
2019-04-16 15:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-16 16:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-16 18:41       ` Waiman Long
2019-04-16 18:16     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-16 18:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17  7:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 16:35         ` Waiman Long
2019-04-17  8:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 16:39         ` Waiman Long
2019-04-18  8:22           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17  8:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 08/16] locking/rwsem: Make rwsem_spin_on_owner() return owner state Waiman Long
2019-04-17  9:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 16:42     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-17 10:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 16:53     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-17 12:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 12:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 18:29       ` Waiman Long
2019-04-18  8:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 13:00     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 18:50       ` Waiman Long
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 09/16] locking/rwsem: Ensure an RT task will not spin on reader Waiman Long
2019-04-17 13:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 18:47     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-18  8:52       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-04-18 13:27         ` Waiman Long
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 10/16] locking/rwsem: Wake up almost all readers in wait queue Waiman Long
2019-04-16 16:50   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2019-04-16 17:37     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-17 13:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 17:16     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 11/16] locking/rwsem: Enable readers spinning on writer Waiman Long
2019-04-17 13:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 17:34     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-18  8:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-18 14:35         ` Waiman Long
2019-04-17 13:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 17:45     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-18  9:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-18 13:40         ` Waiman Long
2019-04-17 14:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 17:51     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-18  9:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-18 14:37         ` Waiman Long
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 12/16] locking/rwsem: Enable time-based spinning on reader-owned rwsem Waiman Long
2019-04-18 13:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-18 15:15     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-19  7:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-19 14:33         ` Waiman Long
2019-04-19 15:36           ` Waiman Long
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 13/16] locking/rwsem: Add more rwsem owner access helpers Waiman Long
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 14/16] locking/rwsem: Guard against making count negative Waiman Long
2019-04-18 13:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-18 14:08     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-18 14:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-18 14:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-18 14:54         ` Waiman Long
2019-04-19 10:26           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-19 12:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-19 13:03               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-19 13:15                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-19 19:39                   ` Waiman Long
2019-04-21 21:07                     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-23 14:17                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-23 14:31                         ` Waiman Long
2019-04-23 16:27                         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-23 19:12                           ` Waiman Long
2019-04-23 19:34                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-23 19:41                               ` Waiman Long
2019-04-23 19:55                                 ` [PATCH] bpf: Fix preempt_enable_no_resched() abuse Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-23 20:03                                   ` [PATCH] trace: " Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-23 23:58                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29  6:39                                     ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-29 13:31                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 14:08                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-23 20:27                                   ` [PATCH] bpf: " Linus Torvalds
2019-04-23 20:35                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-23 20:45                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-24 13:19                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-25 21:23                                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-04-26  7:14                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24  7:09                             ` [PATCH v4 14/16] locking/rwsem: Guard against making count negative Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24 16:49                               ` Waiman Long
2019-04-24 17:01                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24 17:10                                   ` Waiman Long
2019-04-24 17:56                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 15/16] locking/rwsem: Merge owner into count on x86-64 Waiman Long
2019-04-18 14:28   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-18 14:40     ` Waiman Long
2019-04-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v4 16/16] locking/rwsem: Remove redundant computation of writer lock word Waiman Long

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