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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Ceph fixes for 5.1-rc7
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 18:01:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190426170108.GZ2217@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiaZoELovfo4gkfxB0zi6k5pQJNkmSRsEoWYr_z-oupiQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 09:36:00AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:25 AM Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Is it really ok to union the count and rcu_head there?
> 
> It should be fine, because the rcu_count should only ever be used once
> the count has gone to zero and the name cannot be found any more.
> 
> And while RCU path walking may find and use the *name* after the
> dentry has been killed off (but not free'd yet), all the actual
> external_name() accesses should be serialized by the dentry lock, so
> there's no access to those fields once the dentry is dead.

It's not quite that; access to external_name contents is fine,
->d_lock or not.  __d_lookup_rcu() does read it under rcu_read_lock
alone.

However:
	* we never free it without an RCU delay after the final
drop of refcount.  RCU delay might happen on dentry->d_rcu (if
it's dentry_free()) or on name->p.rcu (if it's release_dentry_name_snapshot()
or d_move() dropping the final reference).
	* it's never observed in ->d_name after the refcount
reaches zero.
	* no lockless access ever looks at the refcount.  It
can look at ->name[], but that's it.

What I don't understand is why would anyone want to mess with
name snapshots for dentry_path() lookalikes...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-26 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-25 17:47 [GIT PULL] Ceph fixes for 5.1-rc7 Ilya Dryomov
2019-04-25 18:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-25 18:21   ` Al Viro
2019-04-25 18:24     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-25 18:31       ` Al Viro
2019-04-25 18:36       ` Jeff Layton
2019-04-25 18:23   ` Jeff Layton
2019-04-25 20:09     ` Al Viro
2019-04-26 16:25       ` Jeff Layton
2019-04-26 16:36         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-26 16:43           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-26 17:01           ` Al Viro [this message]
2019-04-26 17:08             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-26 17:11               ` Al Viro
2019-04-26 20:49             ` Jeff Layton
2019-04-26 21:28               ` Al Viro
2019-04-26 16:50         ` Al Viro
2019-04-26 17:30           ` Jeff Layton
2019-04-28  4:38             ` Al Viro
2019-04-28 13:27               ` Jeff Layton
2019-04-28 14:48                 ` Al Viro
2019-04-28 15:47                   ` Jeff Layton
2019-04-28 15:52                     ` Al Viro
2019-04-28 16:18                       ` Jeff Layton
2019-04-28 16:40                       ` Al Viro
2019-04-25 18:35 ` pr-tracker-bot

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