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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.de>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] ftrace/x86: Emulate call function while updating in breakpoint handler
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:13:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190501151330.023cc620@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjCoycqdVjvWkkFnVRQS9fHEzdmiAG4uUV8B04xv7ZVwA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 1 May 2019 12:03:52 -0700
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 6:11 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > Here goes, compile tested only...  
> 
> Ugh, two different threads. This has the same bug (same source) as the
> one Steven posted:
> 
> > --- a/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> > +++ b/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> > @@ -1479,6 +1479,13 @@ ENTRY(int3)
> >         ASM_CLAC
> >         pushl   $-1                             # mark this as an int
> >
> > +       testl   $SEGMENT_RPL_MASK, PT_CS(%esp)
> > +       jnz     .Lfrom_usermode_no_gap
> > +       .rept 6
> > +       pushl   5*4(%esp)
> > +       .endr
> > +.Lfrom_usermode_no_gap:  
> 
> This will corrupt things horribly if you still use vm86 mode. Checking
> CS RPL is simply not correct.

I never tested the 32 bit version of this. And we could just not
implement it (I don't think there's live kernel patching for it
either).

But this doesn't make it any worse than my version, because under the
full testing of my patch with the trampolines, I would easily crash the
32 bit version. That was one reason I made my last patch only support 64
bit.

Under light load, 32 bit works, but when I stress it (running perf and
ftrace together) it blows up. Could be an NMI issue.

-- Steve


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: rostedt at goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt)
Subject: [RFC][PATCH] ftrace/x86: Emulate call function while updating in breakpoint handler
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:13:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190501151330.023cc620@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjCoycqdVjvWkkFnVRQS9fHEzdmiAG4uUV8B04xv7ZVwA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 1 May 2019 12:03:52 -0700
Linus Torvalds <torvalds at linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 6:11 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz at infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > Here goes, compile tested only...  
> 
> Ugh, two different threads. This has the same bug (same source) as the
> one Steven posted:
> 
> > --- a/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> > +++ b/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> > @@ -1479,6 +1479,13 @@ ENTRY(int3)
> >         ASM_CLAC
> >         pushl   $-1                             # mark this as an int
> >
> > +       testl   $SEGMENT_RPL_MASK, PT_CS(%esp)
> > +       jnz     .Lfrom_usermode_no_gap
> > +       .rept 6
> > +       pushl   5*4(%esp)
> > +       .endr
> > +.Lfrom_usermode_no_gap:  
> 
> This will corrupt things horribly if you still use vm86 mode. Checking
> CS RPL is simply not correct.

I never tested the 32 bit version of this. And we could just not
implement it (I don't think there's live kernel patching for it
either).

But this doesn't make it any worse than my version, because under the
full testing of my patch with the trampolines, I would easily crash the
32 bit version. That was one reason I made my last patch only support 64
bit.

Under light load, 32 bit works, but when I stress it (running perf and
ftrace together) it blows up. Could be an NMI issue.

-- Steve

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: rostedt@goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt)
Subject: [RFC][PATCH] ftrace/x86: Emulate call function while updating in breakpoint handler
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:13:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190501151330.023cc620@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190501191330.XxXxOVWFpLC5gGQeoZXNq5FRAn2PaIMi2kNrVip2mYY@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjCoycqdVjvWkkFnVRQS9fHEzdmiAG4uUV8B04xv7ZVwA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 1 May 2019 12:03:52 -0700
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Wed, May 1, 2019@6:11 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > Here goes, compile tested only...  
> 
> Ugh, two different threads. This has the same bug (same source) as the
> one Steven posted:
> 
> > --- a/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> > +++ b/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> > @@ -1479,6 +1479,13 @@ ENTRY(int3)
> >         ASM_CLAC
> >         pushl   $-1                             # mark this as an int
> >
> > +       testl   $SEGMENT_RPL_MASK, PT_CS(%esp)
> > +       jnz     .Lfrom_usermode_no_gap
> > +       .rept 6
> > +       pushl   5*4(%esp)
> > +       .endr
> > +.Lfrom_usermode_no_gap:  
> 
> This will corrupt things horribly if you still use vm86 mode. Checking
> CS RPL is simply not correct.

I never tested the 32 bit version of this. And we could just not
implement it (I don't think there's live kernel patching for it
either).

But this doesn't make it any worse than my version, because under the
full testing of my patch with the trampolines, I would easily crash the
32 bit version. That was one reason I made my last patch only support 64
bit.

Under light load, 32 bit works, but when I stress it (running perf and
ftrace together) it blows up. Could be an NMI issue.

-- Steve

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-05-01 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 192+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-27 10:06 [PATCH 0/4] x86/ftrace: make ftrace_int3_handler() not to skip fops invocation Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` nstange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86/thread_info: introduce ->ftrace_int3_stack member Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06   ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06   ` nstange
2019-04-28 17:41   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 17:41     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 17:41     ` luto
2019-04-28 17:51     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-28 17:51       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-28 17:51       ` rostedt
2019-04-28 18:08       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 18:08         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 18:08         ` luto
2019-04-28 19:43         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-28 19:43           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-28 19:43           ` rostedt
2019-04-28 20:56           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 20:56             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 20:56             ` luto
2019-04-28 21:22       ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-28 21:22         ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-28 21:22         ` nstange
2019-04-28 23:27         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 23:27           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-28 23:27           ` luto
2019-04-27 10:06 ` [PATCH 2/4] ftrace: drop 'static' qualifier from ftrace_ops_list_func() Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06   ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06   ` nstange
2019-04-27 10:06 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86/ftrace: make ftrace_int3_handler() not to skip fops invocation Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06   ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06   ` nstange
2019-04-27 10:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-27 10:26     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-27 10:26     ` peterz
2019-04-28 17:38     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-28 17:38       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-28 17:38       ` rostedt
2019-04-29 18:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 18:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 18:06         ` torvalds
2019-04-29 18:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 18:22           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 18:22           ` torvalds
2019-04-29 18:42           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-29 18:42             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-29 18:42             ` luto
     [not found]             ` <CAHk-=whtt4K2f0KPtG-4Pykh3FK8UBOjD8jhXCUKB5nWDj_YRA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-04-29 18:56               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-29 18:56                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-29 18:56                 ` luto
     [not found]                 ` <CAHk-=wgewK4eFhF3=0RNtk1KQjMANFH6oDE=8m=84RExn2gxhw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <CAHk-=whay7eN6+2gZjY-ybRbkbcqAmgrLwwszzHx8ws3c=S-MA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-04-29 19:24                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-29 19:24                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-29 19:24                       ` luto
2019-04-29 20:07                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 20:07                         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 20:07                         ` torvalds
2019-04-30 13:56                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 13:56                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 13:56                           ` peterz
2019-04-30 16:06                           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30 16:06                             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30 16:06                             ` torvalds
2019-04-30 16:33                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-30 16:33                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-30 16:33                               ` luto
2019-04-30 17:03                               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 17:03                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 17:03                                 ` rostedt
2019-04-30 17:20                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 17:20                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 17:20                                   ` rostedt
2019-04-30 17:49                                   ` [RFC][PATCH] ftrace/x86: Emulate call function while updating in breakpoint handler Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 17:49                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 17:49                                     ` rostedt
2019-04-30 18:33                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30 18:33                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30 18:33                                       ` torvalds
2019-04-30 19:00                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 19:00                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 19:00                                         ` rostedt
2019-04-30 21:08                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 21:08                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 21:08                                         ` rostedt
2019-05-01 13:11                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 13:11                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 13:11                                         ` peterz
2019-05-01 18:58                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01 18:58                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01 18:58                                           ` rostedt
2019-05-01 19:03                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 19:03                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 19:03                                             ` peterz
2019-05-01 19:03                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-01 19:03                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-01 19:03                                           ` torvalds
2019-05-01 19:13                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 19:13                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 19:13                                             ` peterz
2019-05-01 19:13                                           ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2019-05-01 19:13                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01 19:13                                             ` rostedt
2019-05-01 19:33                                             ` Jiri Kosina
2019-05-01 19:33                                               ` Jiri Kosina
2019-05-01 19:33                                               ` jikos
2019-05-01 19:41                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 19:41                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-01 19:41                                                 ` peterz
2019-04-30 21:53                                     ` [RFC][PATCH v2] " Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 21:53                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 21:53                                       ` rostedt
2019-05-01  1:35                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01  1:35                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01  1:35                                         ` rostedt
2019-05-01  1:58                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-01  1:58                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-01  1:58                                           ` torvalds
2019-05-01  8:26                                       ` Nicolai Stange
2019-05-01  8:26                                         ` Nicolai Stange
2019-05-01  8:26                                         ` nstange
2019-05-01 13:22                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01 13:22                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-01 13:22                                           ` rostedt
2019-04-29 20:16                   ` [PATCH 3/4] x86/ftrace: make ftrace_int3_handler() not to skip fops invocation Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 20:16                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 20:16                     ` torvalds
2019-04-29 22:08                     ` Sean Christopherson
2019-04-29 22:08                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-04-29 22:08                       ` sean.j.christopherson
2019-04-29 22:22                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 22:22                         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 22:22                         ` torvalds
2019-04-30  0:08                         ` Sean Christopherson
2019-04-30  0:08                           ` Sean Christopherson
2019-04-30  0:08                           ` sean.j.christopherson
2019-04-30  0:45                           ` Sean Christopherson
2019-04-30  0:45                             ` Sean Christopherson
2019-04-30  0:45                             ` sean.j.christopherson
2019-04-30  2:26                             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30  2:26                               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-30  2:26                               ` torvalds
2019-04-30 10:40                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 10:40                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 10:40                                 ` peterz
2019-04-30 11:17                               ` Jiri Kosina
2019-04-30 11:17                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-04-30 11:17                                 ` jikos
2019-04-29 22:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 22:06                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 22:06                   ` torvalds
2019-04-30 11:18                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 11:18                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 11:18                     ` peterz
2019-04-29 18:52         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 18:52           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 18:52           ` rostedt
     [not found]           ` <CAHk-=wjm93jLtVxTX4HZs6K4k1Wqh3ujjmapqaYtcibVk_YnzQ@mail.gmail.com>
2019-04-29 19:07             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 19:07               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 19:07               ` rostedt
2019-04-29 20:06               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 20:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 20:06                 ` torvalds
2019-04-29 20:20                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 20:20                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 20:20                   ` torvalds
2019-04-29 20:30                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 20:30                   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 20:30                   ` rostedt
2019-04-29 21:38                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 21:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-29 21:38                     ` torvalds
2019-04-29 22:07                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 22:07                       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-29 22:07                       ` rostedt
2019-04-30  9:24                       ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-30  9:24                         ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-30  9:24                         ` nstange
2019-04-30 10:46           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 10:46             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 10:46             ` peterz
2019-04-30 13:44             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 13:44               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 13:44               ` rostedt
2019-04-30 14:20               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 14:20                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-30 14:20                 ` peterz
2019-04-30 14:36                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 14:36                   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-30 14:36                   ` rostedt
2019-04-27 10:06 ` [PATCH 4/4] selftests/livepatch: add "ftrace a live patched function" test Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06   ` Nicolai Stange
2019-04-27 10:06   ` nstange

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