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On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 05:07:30PM -0700, Behan Webster wrote: > If community building is the plan please don’t exclude OpenEmbedded from the name nor the material (in other words, acknowledging which parts are from OpenEmbedded). Part of the community building aspect is going to have to be acknowledging that Yocto Project is an umbrella project made up of other projects, and then celebrating those projects. > > The original idea I put forward was to have a joint OpenEmbedded/Yocto project 2-day event to replace the separate ypdd and OEDEM, not merely a larger Yocto project event. > > I am personally already seeing a negative reaction to these plans from others, which is IMHO sadly contributing to destroying community instead of building it. > > I, personally, would like nothing more than a simpler way to describe the whole thing. However as it stands we essentially have 2 camps that continue to separate instead of coming together. Let’s try and fix that bit first. Completely agreed. I've personally never understood the (until now, mostly) friendly mutual heckling, but its a thing we have to cope with and sort out. The sooner, the better. > And I surely hope that things other than beer and wine are made available. There are actually a lot of attendees who don’t drink from what I can tell, which was made extremely evident to me in Edinburgh where the non alcoholic options kept on running out and how much alcohol was left at the end of the night. Wine and beer isn’t a draw for everyone anymore. Another point I'm just stepping up to fully support. We can run out of booze - its better if we don't but hey, we absolutely must not run out of water and coffee. Greetz PS: Yes, its actually *ME* writing that. > > Thanks, > > Behan > > Sent from my Mobile Computer which is also a phone > > > On May 3, 2019, at 11:01 AM, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. > > > > Here is a snapshot of our schedule: > > > > ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA > > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor > > > > ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) > > Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites > > Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers > > > > ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France > > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor > > > > ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: > > Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM > > Set-up: > > Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks > > Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) > > Includes: > > Morning Break for 2 days > > Buffet Lunch for 2 days > > Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day > > The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. > > > > We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. > > > > Thanks! > > Andreea > > Yocto Project Advocacy Lead > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > yocto-advocacy mailing list > > yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org > > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto-advocacy > -- > _______________________________________________ > yocto-advocacy mailing list > yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto-advocacy -- ——————————————— Josef Holzmayr Software Developer Embedded Systems Tel: +49 8444 9204-48 Fax: +49 8444 9204-50 R-S-I Elektrotechnik GmbH & Co. KG Woelkestrasse 11 D-85301 Schweitenkirchen www.rsi-elektrotechnik.de ——————————————— Amtsgericht Ingolstadt – GmbH: HRB 191328 – KG: HRA 170393 Geschäftsführer: Dr.-Ing. Michael Sorg, Dipl.-Ing. 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