From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.0 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MENTIONS_GIT_HOSTING,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_NEOMUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C17C04AB6 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 07:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF7B21473 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 07:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726921AbfE1HVS (ORCPT ); Tue, 28 May 2019 03:21:18 -0400 Received: from isilmar-4.linta.de ([136.243.71.142]:38812 "EHLO isilmar-4.linta.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726879AbfE1HVS (ORCPT ); Tue, 28 May 2019 03:21:18 -0400 Received: by isilmar-4.linta.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 666342005AF; Tue, 28 May 2019 07:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 09:21:17 +0200 From: Dominik Brodowski To: Allison Randal Cc: Greg KH , linux-spdx@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Meta-question on GPL compliance of this activity Message-ID: <20190528072117.xj5ojedi5sjdqqil@isilmar-4.linta.de> References: <20190521210833.veltn74dcgic5zmw@ebb.org> <0995848C-11BE-47B1-86F9-F56D43541246@jilayne.com> <20190524052026.GA28229@kroah.com> <20190525165643.GA13394@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) Sender: linux-spdx-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-spdx@vger.kernel.org On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 05:54:05PM -0400, Allison Randal wrote: > On 5/25/19 12:56 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > > > Again, remember we have over 65 thousand files in the kernel source > > tree. Any single file that tries to reference them all, in any form, is > > going to be unworkable. > > Yeah, we wouldn't be looking to track every single license notice change > throughout history, that wouldn't be reasonable. We want to narrow it > down to specific sets of changes that removed license notices and > replaced them with SPDX identifiers. And, ideally, display those with > the most minimal amount of information possible. It might even be > reasonable to generate the page as a list of links to the pretty diff > displays of the relevant commits, like: > > https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/fd534e9b5fdcf9bab33c03cb3ade1a1ae5b23c20 > > That's the most faithful capture of the removed license notices we could > possibly provide, and is more accessible than simply saying that they're > in the git history. But, it might not satisfy the most conservative > definitions of "keep intact". > > It seems like we're weighing effort against effectiveness here, but > without a clear definition of what effective means, other than our best > guess at how "keep intact" might be interpreted by someone, somewhere, > sometime. Might it help (and reduce risks) to involve those who clearly hold copyrights to a file, or who at least claim that they hold a copyright? In other words: should these patches be CC'ed / BCC'ed (at least!) to those explicitly listed as copyright holders in the files changed by each of these patches? Thanks, Dominik