From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Wolfgang Denk Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 13:15:38 +0200 Subject: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20190630111538.E4E81241D29@gemini.denx.de> List-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: u-boot@lists.denx.de Dear Jagan, In message you wrote: > In terms of code maintenance and development feasibility it is always > a better approach to have out-of-tree code or binary to be part of > in-house source tree. > > This is what exactly it was done for SPL, if I'm not wrong. So can we > do the same thing for ATF on ARM64 SoCs? You are wrong. SPL has always been U-Boot internal code. It may be true that some "external" early boot stages (line xloader) have been replaced by SPL, but in no case such external code was adaptes as is, and in the cases I am aware of this was original U-Boot code anyway which hat just been forked off and maintained out-of-tree. But SPL is native U-Boot code only. > We are using ATF (on Allwinner) to switch EL3 to EL2 for start loading > U-Boot proper and minimal PSCI, PMIC initialization. So assuming the > functionality of ATF (like here) is limited so the code it require can > be limited too, so why can't this code to be part of U-Boot tree? > > This would ultimately avoid out-off-tree ATF builds with associated > variable exporting during u-boot builds. If U-Boot included a copy of the ATF code, it would have been forked of the mainline ATF code at some point, so it is still out of tree. Best regards, Wolfgang Denk -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de Absolute: Independent, irresponsible. An absolute monarchy is one in which the sovereign does as he pleases so long as he pleases the assassins. Not many absolute monarchies are left, most of them having been replaced by limited monarchies, where the soverign's power for evil (and for good) is greatly curtailed, and by republics, which are governed by chance. - Ambrose Bierce