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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Alexander Steffen <Alexander.Steffen@infineon.com>
Cc: Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrey Pronin <apronin@chromium.org>,
	Duncan Laurie <dlaurie@chromium.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <groeck@chromium.org>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] hwrng: core: Freeze khwrng thread during suspend
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 02:55:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190816235532.zwctk56harregq7x@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d72750b9-38b8-172f-8902-427fcc3d0a5d@infineon.com>

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 05:56:12PM +0200, Alexander Steffen wrote:
> > Andrey talked to me a little about this today. Andrey would prefer we
> > don't just let the TPM go into a wonky state if it's used during
> > suspend/resume so that it can stay resilient to errors. Sounds OK to me,
> > but my point still stands that we need to fix the callers.
> > 
> > I'll resurrect the IS_SUSPENDED flag and make it set generically by the
> > tpm_pm_suspend() and tpm_pm_resume() functions and then spit out a big
> > WARN_ON() and return an error value like -EAGAIN if the TPM functions
> > are called when the TPM is suspended. I hope we don't hit the warning
> > message, but if we do then at least we can track it down rather quickly
> > and figure out how to fix the caller instead of just silently returning
> > -EAGAIN and hoping for that to be visible to the user.
> 
> There is another use case I see for this functionality: There are ways for
> user space to upgrade the TPM's firmware via /dev/tpm0 (using e.g.
> TPM2_FieldUpgradeStart/TPM2_FieldUpgradeData). While upgrading, the normal
> TPM functionality might not be available (commands return TPM_RC_UPGRADE or
> other error codes). Even after the upgrade is finished, the TPM might
> continue to refuse command execution (e.g. with TPM_RC_REBOOT).
> 
> I'm not sure whether all in-kernel users are prepared to deal correctly with
> those error codes. But even if they are, it might be better to block them
> from sending commands in the first place, to not interfere with the upgrade
> process.
> 
> What would you think about a way for a user space upgrade tool to also set
> this flag, to make the TPM unavailable for everything but the upgrade
> process?
> 
> Alexander

NOTE: Just commenting the FW use case.

I don't like it because it contains variable amount of reserved time
for a hardware resource.

Right now a user thread gets a lease of one TPM command for /dev/tpm0
and that is how I would like to keep it.

/Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-16 23:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-16 22:45 [PATCH v2 0/6] tpm: Add driver for cr50 Stephen Boyd
2019-07-16 22:45 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] hwrng: core: Freeze khwrng thread during suspend Stephen Boyd
2019-07-17  1:43   ` Herbert Xu
2019-07-17 16:36     ` Stephen Boyd
2019-07-17 11:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-17 16:42     ` Stephen Boyd
2019-07-17 16:50       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-17 17:03         ` Stephen Boyd
2019-08-02 22:50           ` Stephen Boyd
2019-08-16 15:56             ` Alexander Steffen
2019-08-16 23:55               ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2019-08-02 20:22   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-08-02 23:18     ` Stephen Boyd
2019-07-16 22:45 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] tpm_tis_core: add optional max xfer size check Stephen Boyd
2019-07-16 22:45 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] tpm_tis_spi: add max xfer size Stephen Boyd
2019-07-17  8:07   ` Alexander Steffen
2019-07-17 18:19     ` Stephen Boyd
2019-07-16 22:45 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] dt-bindings: tpm: document properties for cr50 Stephen Boyd
2019-07-16 22:45 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] tpm: add driver for cr50 on SPI Stephen Boyd
2019-07-17 12:00   ` Alexander Steffen
2019-07-17 12:25     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-17 16:49       ` Stephen Boyd
2019-07-17 16:56         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-17 17:05           ` Stephen Boyd
2019-07-17 17:12             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-17 17:22               ` Stephen Boyd
2019-07-17 17:25                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-17 18:21                   ` Stephen Boyd
2019-07-17 18:30                     ` Guenter Roeck
2019-07-17 18:36                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-17 19:57     ` Stephen Boyd
2019-07-17 21:38       ` Stephen Boyd
2019-07-17 22:17         ` Stephen Boyd
2019-07-18 16:47         ` Alexander Steffen
2019-07-18 18:11           ` Stephen Boyd
2019-07-19  7:53             ` Alexander Steffen
2019-08-01 16:02               ` Stephen Boyd
2019-08-02 15:21                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-08-02 18:03                   ` Stephen Boyd
2019-08-02 19:43                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-07-18 16:47       ` Alexander Steffen
2019-07-18 18:07         ` Stephen Boyd
2019-07-19  7:51           ` Alexander Steffen
2019-08-02 20:43         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-08-02 22:32           ` Stephen Boyd
2019-08-02 20:41     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-07-16 22:45 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] tpm: Add driver for cr50 on I2C Stephen Boyd
2019-07-17 15:19   ` Alexander Steffen
2019-08-05 23:52     ` Stephen Boyd
2019-08-02 20:44   ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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