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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo@jmondi.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	tfiga@google.com,
	"open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRASTRUCTURE (V4L/DVB)"
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/10] media: dt-bindings: Document 'location' property
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 19:49:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190902164937.GF12197@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190902164031.yllajoj6duz27mun@uno.localdomain>

Hi Jacopo,

On Mon, Sep 02, 2019 at 06:40:31PM +0200, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 02, 2019 at 02:38:40PM +0100, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 02:46:40PM +0200, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 03:21:26PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:23:27AM +0200, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
> >>>> Add the 'location' device property, used to specify the camera device
> >>>> mounting position. The property is particularly meaningful for mobile
> >>>> devices with a well defined usage orientation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo@jmondi.org>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>  .../devicetree/bindings/media/video-interfaces.txt     | 10 ++++++++++
> >>>>  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/video-interfaces.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/video-interfaces.txt
> >>>> index f884ada0bffc..865f4142f432 100644
> >>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/video-interfaces.txt
> >>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/video-interfaces.txt
> >>>> @@ -89,6 +89,16 @@ Optional properties
> >>>>    but a number of degrees counter clockwise. Typical values are 0 and 180
> >>>>    (upside down).
> >>>>
> >>>> +- location: The camera sensor mounting location, expressed as a position
> >>>> +  relative to the usage orientation of the device the sensor is installed on.
> >>>
> >>> DT bindings being ABIs, we need to be precise and thorough there. One
> >>> particular point that bothers me is that the property is named location,
> >>> and its description refers to camera sensor mounting location.
> >>>
> >>> I see two options to fix this. One of them is to rename the property to
> >>> camera-location, but that would limit its future usage for other types
> >>> of devices. The other one is to document the property as applying to a
> >>> "device" instead of a "camera sensor", and add one sentence stating that
> >>> this property is valid for camera sensors only.
> >>>
> >>> This will require finding another name for the device that the device is
> >>> mounted on though, as using device twice would be very confusing.
> >>
> >> I had the same concern, but I cannot find another term to convey
> >> this... suggestions?
> >
> > For accelerometers and/or gyroscopes, we already have 'mount-matrix'.
> 
> Pardon my ignorance, but I could not find it documented. Some binding
> files refers to an iio/mount-matrix.txt file which I cannot find. Has
> it been removed? Anyway, some individual bindings report examples of
> mount matrices (ie
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/imu/inv_mpu6050.txt)
> 
> > That would replace 'rotation'. Maybe we can do something similar here?
> 
> I think 'rotation' simply expressed as degrees is fine here, our
> problem was to find a term that would make it possible to specify that
> rotation/location are applied to a 'device' mounted on a 'device'.
> Sakari suggested on irc to use 'system' in place of the second
> 'device' and that seems to work well to me.
> 
> Or were you suggesting to use a construct similar to mount-matrix for
> a purpose I didn't get :) ?

mount-matrix would allow exposing the rotation in a more generic way,
and if there are standard DT bindings, I think this would make sense,
especially given that we could have device with camera sensors not
mounted parallel to the device side.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-02 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-27  9:23 [PATCH v2 00/10] media: Report camera sensor properties Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27  9:23 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] media: dt-bindings: Document 'location' property Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27  9:23   ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27 12:21   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-27 12:21     ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-29 12:46     ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-29 12:46       ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-09-02 13:38       ` Rob Herring
2019-09-02 13:38         ` Rob Herring
2019-09-02 16:40         ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-09-02 16:40           ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-09-02 16:49           ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2019-09-02 16:49             ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-02 19:48             ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-09-02 19:48               ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-09-03 13:22               ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-03 13:22                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-12 12:51     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-12 16:36       ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27  9:23 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] media: v4l2-ctrl: Document V4L2_CID_CAMERA_SENSOR_LOCATION Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27 12:50   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-29 12:47     ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27  9:23 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] media: v4l2-ctrl: Document V4L2_CID_CAMERA_SENSOR_ROTATION Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27 12:51   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-02 11:20     ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-09-02 16:43       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-03  4:16         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-09-03 13:17           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-03 15:22           ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27  9:23 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] media: v4l2-ctrl: Add V4L2_CID_CAMERA_SENSOR_LOCATION Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27 12:53   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-27  9:23 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] media: v4l2-ctrls: " Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27  9:36   ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27  9:23 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] media: v4l2-ctrl: Add V4L2_CID_CAMERA_SENSOR_ROTATION Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27 13:07   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-27  9:23 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] media: v4l2-ctrls: " Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27  9:36   ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27  9:23 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] media: v4l2-fwnode: Add helper to register controls from fw Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27 13:16   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-29 12:55     ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-29 10:31   ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-29 12:45     ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-29 13:04       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-29 15:05         ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-29 15:32           ` Hans Verkuil
2019-09-02  9:39             ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-09-02  9:46             ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-27  9:23 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] media: i2c: ov5670: Register controls from firmware Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27  9:23 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] media: i2c: ov13858: " Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27  9:23 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] media: i2c: ov5670: Report native size and crop bounds Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-29 10:20   ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-29 12:40     ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-29 12:55       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-29 13:18         ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-29 13:39           ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-29 16:43             ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-09-02 10:05               ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-03 13:06         ` Sakari Ailus
2019-09-03 16:49           ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-09-26  8:11             ` Hans Verkuil
2019-09-26 18:56               ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-10-07 14:23                 ` Tomasz Figa
2019-08-27  9:23 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] media: i2c: ov13858: " Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-27  9:23 ` [DO NOT MERGE] mb/google/poppy/variant/soraka: Add camera properties Jacopo Mondi

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