From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com>
Cc: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>,
Subhra Mazumdar <subhra.mazumdar@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
tglx@linutronix.de, steven.sistare@oracle.com,
dhaval.giani@oracle.com, daniel.lezcano@linaro.org,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, viresh.kumar@linaro.org,
tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, mgorman@techsingularity.net,
parth@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/9] sched,cgroup: Add interface for latency-nice
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:30:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190905113002.GK2349@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190905111346.2w6kuqrdvaqvgilu@e107158-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 12:13:47PM +0100, Qais Yousef wrote:
> On 09/05/19 12:46, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > This is important because we want to be able to bias towards less
> > importance to (tail) latency as well as more importantance to (tail)
> > latency.
> >
> > Specifically, Oracle wants to sacrifice (some) latency for throughput.
> > Facebook OTOH seems to want to sacrifice (some) throughput for latency.
>
> Another use case I'm considering is using latency-nice to prefer an idle CPU if
> latency-nice is set otherwise go for the most energy efficient CPU.
>
> Ie: sacrifice (some) energy for latency.
>
> The way I see interpreting latency-nice here as a binary switch. But
> maybe we can use the range to select what (some) energy to sacrifice
> mean here. Hmmm.
It cannot be binary, per definition is must be ternary, that is, <0, ==0
and >0 (or middle value if you're of that persuasion).
In your case, I'm thinking you mean >0, we want to lower the latency.
Anyway; there were a number of things mentioned at OSPM that we could
tie into this thing and finding sensible mappings is going to be a bit
of trial and error I suppose.
But as patrick said; we're very much exporting a BIAS knob, not a set of
behaviours.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-09-05 11:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-30 17:49 [RFC PATCH 0/9] Task latency-nice subhra mazumdar
2019-08-30 17:49 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] sched,cgroup: Add interface for latency-nice subhra mazumdar
2019-09-04 17:32 ` Tim Chen
2019-09-05 6:15 ` Parth Shah
2019-09-05 10:11 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-09-06 12:22 ` Parth Shah
2019-09-05 8:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-05 9:45 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-09-05 10:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-05 11:13 ` Qais Yousef
2019-09-05 11:30 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-09-05 11:40 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-09-05 11:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-05 13:32 ` Qais Yousef
2019-09-05 11:47 ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-16 0:02 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-16 17:23 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-18 16:01 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-20 11:26 ` Parth Shah
2020-04-20 19:14 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-20 11:47 ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-20 19:10 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-09-05 11:30 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-09-05 11:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-05 11:18 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-09-05 11:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-05 11:46 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-09-05 11:46 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-09-05 13:07 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-09-05 14:48 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-09-06 12:45 ` Parth Shah
2019-09-06 14:13 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-09-06 14:32 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-09-06 17:10 ` Parth Shah
2019-09-06 22:50 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-09-06 12:31 ` Parth Shah
2019-09-05 10:05 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-09-05 10:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-30 17:49 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] sched: add search limit as per latency-nice subhra mazumdar
2019-09-05 6:22 ` Parth Shah
2019-08-30 17:49 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] sched: add sched feature to disable idle core search subhra mazumdar
2019-09-05 10:17 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-09-05 22:02 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-08-30 17:49 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] sched: SIS_CORE " subhra mazumdar
2019-09-05 10:19 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-08-30 17:49 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] sched: Define macro for number of CPUs in core subhra mazumdar
2019-08-30 17:49 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] x86/smpboot: Optimize cpumask_weight_sibling macro for x86 subhra mazumdar
2019-08-30 17:49 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] sched: search SMT before LLC domain subhra mazumdar
2019-09-05 9:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-05 20:40 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-08-30 17:49 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] sched: introduce per-cpu var next_cpu to track search limit subhra mazumdar
2019-08-30 17:49 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] sched: rotate the cpu search window for better spread subhra mazumdar
2019-09-05 6:37 ` Parth Shah
2019-09-05 5:55 ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] Task latency-nice Parth Shah
2019-09-05 10:31 ` Patrick Bellasi
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