From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=3.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9CBC43331 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 16:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2B52082E for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 16:12:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1567699953; bh=eXl4eYahB1aGqdIO4XlYgDiYZoYYX53kWxQSYsX4y4o=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:List-ID:From; b=O/RZO+7TpwqsZ2kWDb1w+C7OR4Mmmb5DQYCZQchCVzTUHU420C1/HXmxkARjif6KK OZ/UX4SU9Ap18qWBJPztOQ1YyP6Yqu4w6gA6i/ey8TYFdkwUqf/EJB9k2cqsVYwPUY n6VkCqATTjZEavAsZTLsXCcsbJzdg279XXeRhSR8= Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729908AbfIEQMc (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Sep 2019 12:12:32 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:43028 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727014AbfIEQMb (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Sep 2019 12:12:31 -0400 Received: from devnote2 (NE2965lan1.rev.em-net.ne.jp [210.141.244.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1EFB020825; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 16:12:28 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1567699951; bh=eXl4eYahB1aGqdIO4XlYgDiYZoYYX53kWxQSYsX4y4o=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=WdNZI6L1F1Du6+UD+3leGaA/lnP9ad/3lg9we5IJuUO2tiN4Z27EO2vzYCN/Gtacx OyyGH0jl8gQLo8kAo/0f6HjvEEJZVOXdm3oSJovUZyDY0mQHas+CsQnrwTVl/dlC7I JweZK5XSEhINZiNuF89OBJP6yMEFk6/pBn/BgqH8= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 01:12:26 +0900 From: Masami Hiramatsu To: Andrew Cooper Cc: Ingo Molnar , Juergen Gross , "Stefano Stabellini" , Peter Zijlstra , Randy Dunlap , , , Borislav Petkov , "Josh Poimboeuf" , , "Boris Ostrovsky" Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH -tip 0/2] x86: Prohibit kprobes on XEN_EMULATE_PREFIX Message-Id: <20190906011226.f5e8f3d69c6cc8254f97ae7c@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <1d868c99-58c5-1bbd-e6a4-2003dd319b5b@citrix.com> References: <156759754770.24473.11832897710080799131.stgit@devnote2> <20190905104937.60aa03f699a9c0fbf1b651b9@kernel.org> <1372ce73-e2d8-6144-57df-a98429587826@citrix.com> <20190905203224.e41d7f3dfbf918c5031f9766@kernel.org> <20190905220958.d0189e1e253f9e553b880675@kernel.org> <1d868c99-58c5-1bbd-e6a4-2003dd319b5b@citrix.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 14:31:56 +0100 Andrew Cooper wrote: > >>> The KVM version was added in c/s 6c86eedc206dd1f9d37a2796faa8e6f2278215d2 > > Hmm, I think I might misunderstand what the "emulate prefix"... that is not > > a prefix which replace actual prefix, but just works like an escape sequence. > > Thus the next instruction can have any x86 prefix, correct? > > There is a bit of history here :) > > Originally, 13 years ago, Xen invented the "Force Emulate Prefix", which > was the sequence: > > ud2a; .ascii 'xen'; cpuid > > which hit the #UD handler and was recognised as a request for > virtualised CPUID information.  This was for ring-deprivileged > virtualisation, and is needed because the CPUID instruction itself > doesn't trap to the hypervisor. > > Following some security issues in our instruction emulator, I reused > this prefix with VT-x/SVM guests for testing purposes.  It behaves in a > similar manner - when enabled, it is recognised in #UD exception > intercept, and causes Xen to add 5 to the instruction pointer, then > emulate the instruction starting there. > > Then various folk thought that having the same kind of ability to test > KVM's instruction emulator would be a good idea, so they borrowed the idea. > > From a behaviour point of view, it is an opaque 5 bytes which means > "break into the hypervisor, then emulate the following instruction". > > The name "prefix" is unfortunate.  It was named thusly because from the > programmers point of view, it was something you put before the CPUID > instruction which wanted to be emulated.  It is not related to x86 > instruction concept of a prefix. OK, then we should not use the insn->prefixes for those escape sequences. 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Thu, 5 Sep 2019 16:12:28 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1567699951; bh=eXl4eYahB1aGqdIO4XlYgDiYZoYYX53kWxQSYsX4y4o=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=WdNZI6L1F1Du6+UD+3leGaA/lnP9ad/3lg9we5IJuUO2tiN4Z27EO2vzYCN/Gtacx OyyGH0jl8gQLo8kAo/0f6HjvEEJZVOXdm3oSJovUZyDY0mQHas+CsQnrwTVl/dlC7I JweZK5XSEhINZiNuF89OBJP6yMEFk6/pBn/BgqH8= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 01:12:26 +0900 From: Masami Hiramatsu To: Andrew Cooper Message-Id: <20190906011226.f5e8f3d69c6cc8254f97ae7c@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <1d868c99-58c5-1bbd-e6a4-2003dd319b5b@citrix.com> References: <156759754770.24473.11832897710080799131.stgit@devnote2> <20190905104937.60aa03f699a9c0fbf1b651b9@kernel.org> <1372ce73-e2d8-6144-57df-a98429587826@citrix.com> <20190905203224.e41d7f3dfbf918c5031f9766@kernel.org> <20190905220958.d0189e1e253f9e553b880675@kernel.org> <1d868c99-58c5-1bbd-e6a4-2003dd319b5b@citrix.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH -tip 0/2] x86: Prohibit kprobes on XEN_EMULATE_PREFIX X-BeenThere: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen developer discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Juergen Gross , Stefano Stabellini , Peter Zijlstra , x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Borislav Petkov , Randy Dunlap , Josh Poimboeuf , xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Boris Ostrovsky , Ingo Molnar Content-Type: text/plain; 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