From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16447C4CECD for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 20:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD823216C8 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 20:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="Cw4D9QTM" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729917AbfIQUwo (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Sep 2019 16:52:44 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f67.google.com ([209.85.128.67]:40829 "EHLO mail-wm1-f67.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726044AbfIQUwn (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Sep 2019 16:52:43 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f67.google.com with SMTP id b24so22071wmj.5; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:52:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=ApT0kSwd0qDPrpu8YD2GohWeJamU26dBJ+jJSNS2N/w=; b=Cw4D9QTM40QeSn5ag5Fy7naFWlT8CuE4Jc/VpV9ujyw+3wxs7IFqglZv4uqz6yJqKm 6ivRok4vGvWJWcKJpZM1ivrr33Pec+rCj0so6jzFdaVyD4Cax89Iv+Xt/91shEaJ1em5 jcCKhzicru/qAfkEN4GSeVGEO4hmgot0g2dt4xdTQwpZxfFEUgmGFh1BfkBG9Sc1Mk+0 GMLBMW2RmDs1S+Hr6z5v49Jy49YlrzqanorxZFwdsrAqSFvGGm7Xcn1kVozVWRDO1/zd wVeKfHfGDLfKDQShYHG5XVVivYtqBa/C6af5JDz8B5zh9vGE+Ju7pQsLL3rwFQZblCsB ylAw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=ApT0kSwd0qDPrpu8YD2GohWeJamU26dBJ+jJSNS2N/w=; b=EqzqVRfPlSisxo1tc7arKeagaX5gxCW9HBr9m8IrrH1Kx9R7oNYP6RXsU3YrRkhSRQ Gr5MxrxNzA79Ioqq1Nfs+YtaGHOFIuCPgKrHaXOmJiYLCHRjJhjyne0uuD0jVWpYib40 q6iCw3TTBodn1IDDET34qetKI+4K1qNhZIqP4AKI8NMCuzYE7w5OgVdcuDliJy2BnjVs 04fBMnWrPVZo6VaOJUVc7sR7CM+lPJv+xeA/9y8iuW06XPdvQSMWTassfjRnUYMbP797 IGr+uaXTDJ8/ZL3+tN5sdi+wZXD9tAZe/cZjUYU11Jl6/AjZffJ31G401LmCZ5dRLvPX 7rZw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVMoya+/PD3H3AKoNPftdoXGaYYYX7DwXrv6fRo/5TBjcaMauVe O8M7Ub9ZYKg2pVaAYIdIcEc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyFO//Zh6kStyRWZE1zRsXqFhQBmSoIvCWsjebAToll90pLtRXxEqs6I7c7Z0FUscm7OwWz1g== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:1d8d:: with SMTP id d135mr18289wmd.7.1568753561336; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darwi-home-pc (p200300D06F2D143EC08AA0470B895785.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [2003:d0:6f2d:143e:c08a:a047:b89:5785]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j1sm5256090wrg.24.2019.09.17.13.52.39 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 22:52:34 +0200 From: "Ahmed S. Darwish" To: Martin Steigerwald Cc: Linus Torvalds , Lennart Poettering , "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Willy Tarreau , Matthew Garrett , Vito Caputo , Andreas Dilger , Jan Kara , Ray Strode , William Jon McCann , "Alexander E. Patrakov" , zhangjs , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, lkml Subject: Re: Linux 5.3-rc8 Message-ID: <20190917205234.GA1765@darwi-home-pc> References: <20190917174219.GD31798@gardel-login> <2658007.Cequ2ms4lF@merkaba> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2658007.Cequ2ms4lF@merkaba> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:28:47PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: [...] > > I don't have any kernel logs old enough to see whether whether crng init > times have been different with Systemd due to asking for randomness for > UUID/hashmaps. > Please stop claiming this. It has been pointed out to you, __multiple times__, that this makes no difference. For example: https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190916024904.GA22035@mit.edu No. getrandom(2) uses the new CRNG, which is either initialized, or it's not ... So to the extent that systemd has made systems boot faster, you could call that systemd's "fault". You've claimed this like 3 times before in this thread already, and multiple people replied with the same response. If you don't get the paragraph above, then please don't continue replying further on this thread. thanks, -- Ahmed Darwish http://darwish.chasingpointers.com