From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62ED1F463 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 15:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2390576AbfIXPui (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:50:38 -0400 Received: from cloud.peff.net ([104.130.231.41]:58416 "HELO cloud.peff.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S2388230AbfIXPuh (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:50:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 7859 invoked by uid 109); 24 Sep 2019 15:50:37 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO peff.net) (10.0.1.2) by cloud.peff.net (qpsmtpd/0.94) with SMTP; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 15:50:37 +0000 Authentication-Results: cloud.peff.net; auth=none Received: (qmail 9966 invoked by uid 111); 24 Sep 2019 15:52:59 -0000 Received: from sigill.intra.peff.net (HELO sigill.intra.peff.net) (10.0.0.7) by peff.net (qpsmtpd/0.94) with (TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 encrypted) ESMTPS; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:52:59 -0400 Authentication-Results: peff.net; auth=none Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:50:36 -0400 From: Jeff King To: Johannes Schindelin Cc: SZEDER =?utf-8?B?R8OhYm9y?= , git@vger.kernel.org, git@sfconservancy.org, Derrick Stolee , Emily Shaffer , Jonathan Nieder , Junio C Hamano , garimasigit@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] add a Code of Conduct document Message-ID: <20190924155036.GA5318@sigill.intra.peff.net> References: <20190924064454.GA30419@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20190924090152.GA7209@szeder.dev> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 03:20:42PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > > If diversity and inclusion of other cultures is indeed a priority, > > then we should carefully consider that some potential contributors > > will rather choose not to contribute because of a CoC like this. > > Let me be blunt for a minute. The proposed CoC would not change anything > for any contributor I consider decent. Not one thing. There would not be > any need to change any behavior, no need to complain, they could just > read the CoC and say: "Yep, that's right, that's exactly how I want to > behave, and that's how I want the others in this project to behave. Back > to this bug I wanted to debug/this feature I wanted to implement..." Thanks for your response, Dscho. I was all set to reply to Gábor, but you made all my points for me. :) In particular, I think this paragraph is key. I don't think this CoC is asking to change anything about how we work or communicate currently. I view it as writing down the status quo (which is valuable for the reasons I mentioned in the commit message). (None of which is to say that people might not have disagreements that need resolving, or that discussions about communication style aren't welcome; just that I think the CoC is at a more meta level). -Peff