From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47577ECE588 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 16:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B032086A for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 16:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ideasonboard.com header.i=@ideasonboard.com header.b="JHH/VWeY" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726677AbfJOQ15 (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:27:57 -0400 Received: from perceval.ideasonboard.com ([213.167.242.64]:56740 "EHLO perceval.ideasonboard.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729584AbfJOQ15 (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:27:57 -0400 Received: from pendragon.ideasonboard.com (81-175-216-236.bb.dnainternet.fi [81.175.216.236]) by perceval.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2FFF1324; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 18:27:55 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ideasonboard.com; s=mail; t=1571156875; bh=Cek3b3kXuq1VOi9ep7hchvDk8d6BRZknYw90yIhHT4Y=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=JHH/VWeYn00WBzEwP1MlZvgKCqOcPFuk20PFXUrG9EvbU6vdwZGpFscq/v9ZwdcCu 1SiliXKpvHH38FbTfXiddc3Muah8rQdtn/jhu90I5jNViKsfWrsI1e/hURgK8skyQ0 BlV9QZl2KBJ7Vsn+2FdJUXFI0xAhQTnqi8qVMLoQ= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 19:27:44 +0300 From: Laurent Pinchart To: Dmitry Vyukov Cc: Eric Wong , Shuah Khan , Greg KH , patchwork@lists.ozlabs.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RFE: use patchwork to submit a patch Message-ID: <20191015162744.GG4875@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> References: <20191010144150.hqiosvwolm3lmzp5@chatter.i7.local> <20191011085702.GB1075470@kroah.com> <20191015085746.GA9401@dcvr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: workflows-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:11:57AM +0200, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 10:57 AM Eric Wong wrote: > > Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > > > As one data point, I cannot send emails with git send-email anymore. > > > It used to work, then broke and I don't know how to fix it. Now it says: > > > > > > 5.7.8 Username and Password not accepted. Learn more at > > > 5.7.8 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BadCredentials > > > s10sm8376885wrr.5 - gsmtp > > > > > > I suspect it has something to do with two factor auth. > > > So that's it: it cannot contribute to kernel right now. > > > I will not consider time spent fixing it as useful time investment. > > > > I'm sorry you feel that way about time investments... > > But I've always assumed that's also the sentiment for time spent > > learning ANY new tools or workflow changes that come along. > > This is true. But the fact that there is a learning curve to anything > does not justify any learning curve for everything. Some parts of > technology may be isolated completely and one does not need to learn > anything about that part. For example, today to compile a high-level > language one generally does not need to learn anything about machine > instructions. So the question is: is SMTP/IMAP is something that > inherently needs to be learned for contribution to kernel or it can be > hidden/not required/made simpler? And looking at github/facebook I > would assume that contributors do not have to be exposed to that. I also forgot to mention one thing here. It can be argue that forges and large e-mail providers such as gmail made the world a better place by managing to hide SMTP and IMAP. But if you want to defend that point of view, then it should be their responsibility to provide integration with git-send-email. Golden handcuffs are, at the end of the day, just handcuffs. > > > Any kernel documentation that I can find for gmail, mentions config > > > that I am already using and that is not working: > > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/search.html?q=gmail&check_keywords=yes&area=default# > > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/email-clients.html?highlight=gmail > > > > Fwiw, git-send-email(1) manpage also has a special section for gmail: > > > > https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html > > > > and a link for app-specific passwords: > > > > https://security.google.com/settings/security/apppasswords > > > > Perhaps that helps? > > For me that page says "The setting you are looking for is not > available for your account". > I suspect app passwords work if 2-factor auth is enabled, but what > enabled on my account is "Use your phone to sign in", which is > different from 2-factor auth setting. -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart