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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
Cc: Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cgroup: pids: use {READ,WRITE}_ONCE for pids->limit operations
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 07:27:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191016142756.GN18794@devbig004.ftw2.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191016083218.ttsaqnxpjh5i5bgv@yavin.dot.cyphar.com>

Hello, Aleksa.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 07:32:19PM +1100, Aleksa Sarai wrote:
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding Documentation/atomic_t.txt, but it looks to
> me like it's explicitly saying that I shouldn't use atomic64_t if I'm
> just using it for fetching and assignment.

Hah, where is it saying that?  The alternative would be seqlock or
u64_stats or straight-up locking but idk for this atomic64_t should be
fine.

> > The non-RMW ops are (typically) regular LOADs and STOREs and are
> > canonically implemented using READ_ONCE(), WRITE_ONCE(),
> > smp_load_acquire() and smp_store_release() respectively. Therefore, if
> > you find yourself only using the Non-RMW operations of atomic_t, you
> > do not in fact need atomic_t at all and are doing it wrong.
> 
> As for 64-bit on 32-bit machines -- that is a separate issue, but from
> [1] it seems to me like there are more problems that *_ONCE() fixes than
> just split reads and writes.

Your explanations are too wishy washy.  If you wanna fix it, please do
it correctly.  R/W ONCE isn't the right solution here.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-16 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-12  1:05 [PATCH] cgroup: pids: use {READ,WRITE}_ONCE for pids->limit operations Aleksa Sarai
2019-10-14 15:41 ` Tejun Heo
2019-10-14 15:59   ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-10-14 16:33     ` Tejun Heo
2019-10-16  8:32       ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-10-16 14:27         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2019-10-16 15:29           ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-10-16 15:32             ` Tejun Heo
2019-10-16 15:35             ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-10-16 15:54               ` Tejun Heo

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