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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] mm: vmscan: naming fixes: global_reclaim() and sane_reclaim()
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 11:56:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191023155643.GB366316@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191023141436.GE17610@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 04:14:36PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 22-10-19 10:47:59, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > Seven years after introducing the global_reclaim() function, I still
> > have to double take when reading a callsite. I don't know how others
> > do it, this is a terrible name.
> 
> I somehow never had problem with that but ...
> > 
> > Invert the meaning and rename it to cgroup_reclaim().
> > 
> > [ After all, "global reclaim" is just regular reclaim invoked from the
> >   page allocator. It's reclaim on behalf of a cgroup limit that is a
> >   special case of reclaim, and should be explicit - not the reverse. ]
> 
> ... this is a valid point.
> 
> > sane_reclaim() isn't very descriptive either: it tests whether we can
> > use the regular writeback throttling - available during regular page
> > reclaim or cgroup2 limit reclaim - or need to use the broken
> > wait_on_page_writeback() method. Use "writeback_throttling_sane()".
> 
> I do have a stronger opinion on this one. sane_reclaim is really a
> terrible name. As you say the only thing this should really tell is
> whether writeback throttling is available so I would rather go with
> has_writeback_throttling() or writeba_throttling_{eabled,available}
> If you insist on having sane in the name then I won't object but it just
> raises a question whether we have some levels of throttling with a
> different level of sanity.

I mean, cgroup1 *does* have a method to not OOM due to pages under
writeback: wait_on_page_writeback() on each wb page on the LRU.

It's terrible, but it's a form of writeback throttling. That's what
the sane vs insane distinction is about, I guess: we do in fact have
throttling implementations with different levels of sanity.

> > Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> 
> Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>

Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-23 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-22 14:47 [PATCH 0/8]: mm: vmscan: cgroup-related cleanups Johannes Weiner
2019-10-22 14:47 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm: vmscan: simplify lruvec_lru_size() Johannes Weiner
2019-10-22 19:18   ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-23 13:48   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 14:47 ` [PATCH 2/8] mm: clean up and clarify lruvec lookup procedure Johannes Weiner
2019-10-22 19:25   ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-22 21:31     ` Johannes Weiner
2019-10-23 14:00   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 14:47 ` [PATCH 3/8] mm: vmscan: move inactive_list_is_low() swap check to the caller Johannes Weiner
2019-10-22 19:28   ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-23 14:06   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 14:47 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm: vmscan: naming fixes: global_reclaim() and sane_reclaim() Johannes Weiner
2019-10-22 19:40   ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-23 16:02     ` Johannes Weiner
2019-10-23 14:14   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 15:56     ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2019-10-22 14:48 ` [PATCH 5/8] mm: vmscan: replace shrink_node() loop with a retry jump Johannes Weiner
2019-10-22 19:56   ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-22 21:42     ` Johannes Weiner
2019-10-22 22:46       ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-23 14:18   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-25 13:44     ` Johannes Weiner
2019-10-22 14:48 ` [PATCH 6/8] mm: vmscan: turn shrink_node_memcg() into shrink_lruvec() Johannes Weiner
2019-10-22 20:04   ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-23 14:21   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 14:48 ` [PATCH 7/8] mm: vmscan: split shrink_node() into node part and memcgs part Johannes Weiner
2019-10-22 20:08   ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-25 14:36     ` Johannes Weiner
2019-10-23 14:24   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 14:48 ` [PATCH 8/8] mm: vmscan: harmonize writeback congestion tracking for nodes & memcgs Johannes Weiner
2019-10-22 21:03   ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-25 14:41     ` Johannes Weiner

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