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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, mhiramat@kernel.org, bristot@redhat.com,
	jbaron@akamai.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@kernel.org, namit@vmware.com,
	hpa@zytor.com, luto@kernel.org, ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org,
	jeyu@kernel.org, live-patching@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 15/16] module: Move where we mark modules RO,X
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 12:00:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191023170025.f34g3vxaqr4f5gqh@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191023114835.GT1817@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 01:48:35PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Now sadly that commit missed all the useful information, luckily I could
> find the patch in my LKML folder, more sad, that thread still didn't
> contain the actual useful information, for that I was directed to
> github:
> 
>   https://github.com/dynup/kpatch/issues/580
> 
> Now, someone is owning me a beer for having to look at github for this.

Deal.  And you probably deserve a few more for fixing our crap.

The github thing is supposed to be temporary, at least in theory we'll
eventually have all klp patch module building code in the kernel tree.

> That finally explained that what happens is that the RELA was trying to
> fix up the paravirt indirect call to 'local_irq_disable', which
> apply_paravirt() will have overwritten with 'CLI; NOP'. This then
> obviously goes *bang*.
> 
> This then raises a number of questions:
> 
>  1) why is that RELA (that obviously does not depend on any module)
>     applied so late?

Good question.  The 'pv_ops' symbol is exported by the core kernel, so I
can't see any reason why we'd need to apply that rela late.  In theory,
kpatch-build isn't supposed to convert that to a klp rela.  Maybe
something went wrong in the patch creation code.

I'm also questioning why we even need to apply the parainstructions
section late.  Maybe we can remove that apply_paravirt() call
altogether, along with .klp.arch.parainstruction sections.

I'll need to look into it...

>  2) why can't we unconditionally skip RELA's to paravirt sites?

We could, but I don't think it's needed if we fix #1.

>  3) Is there ever a possible module-dependent RELA to a paravirt /
>     alternative site?

Good question...

> Now, for 1), I would propose '.klp.rela.${mod}' sections only contain
> RELAs that depend on symbols in ${mod} (or modules in general).

That was already the goal, but we've apparently failed at that.

> We can fix up RELAs that depend on core kernel early without problems.
> Let them be in the normal .rela sections and be fixed up on loading
> the patch-module as per usual.

If such symbols aren't exported, then they still need to be in
.klp.rela.vmlinux sections, since normal relas won't work.

> This should also deal with 2, paravirt should always have RELAs into the
> core kernel.
> 
> Then for 3) we only have alternatives left, and I _think_ it unlikely to
> be the case, but I'll have to have a hard look at that.

I'm not sure about alternatives, but maybe we can enforce such
limitations with tooling and/or kernel checks.

-- 
Josh


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-23 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-18  7:35 [PATCH v4 00/16] Rewrite x86/ftrace to use text_poke (and more) Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 01/16] x86/alternatives: Teach text_poke_bp() to emulate instructions Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 02/16] x86/alternatives: Update int3_emulate_push() comment Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 03/16] x86/alternatives,jump_label: Provide better text_poke() batching interface Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-21  8:48   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-10-21  9:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 04/16] x86/alternatives: Add and use text_gen_insn() helper Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 05/16] x86/ftrace: Use text_poke() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 06/16] x86/mm: Remove set_kernel_text_r[ow]() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 07/16] x86/alternative: Add text_opcode_size() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 08/16] x86/ftrace: Use text_gen_insn() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 09/16] x86/alternative: Remove text_poke_loc::len Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-21  8:58   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-10-21  9:02     ` Ingo Molnar
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 10/16] x86/alternative: Shrink text_poke_loc Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-21  9:01   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-10-21  9:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-21  9:33       ` Ingo Molnar
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 11/16] x86/kprobes: Convert to text-patching.h Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-21 14:57   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 12/16] x86/kprobes: Fix ordering Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-22  1:35   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-10-22 10:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 13/16] arm/ftrace: Use __patch_text_real() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-28 16:25   ` Will Deacon
2019-10-28 16:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-28 16:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-28 16:47       ` Will Deacon
2019-10-28 16:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 14/16] module: Remove set_all_modules_text_*() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 15/16] module: Move where we mark modules RO,X Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-21 13:53   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-21 14:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-21 15:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-21 15:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-21 16:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-22 11:31           ` Heiko Carstens
2019-10-22 12:31             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-23 11:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-23 15:16         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-23 17:15           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 10:59             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-24 18:31               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 20:33                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-23 17:00         ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2019-10-24 13:16           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-25  6:44             ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-25  8:43               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-25 10:06                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-25 13:50                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-26  1:17                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-28 10:07                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-28 10:43                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-25  9:16               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-22  2:21   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-22 20:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-22 20:40       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-23  9:07         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-23 18:52       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-24 10:16         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-24 10:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-24 15:00           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-24 16:43             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-24 18:17               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-24 20:24                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-24 20:28                   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-18  7:35 ` [PATCH v4 16/16] ftrace: Merge ftrace_module_{init,enable}() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-18  8:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-21  9:09 ` [PATCH v4 00/16] Rewrite x86/ftrace to use text_poke (and more) Ingo Molnar
2019-10-21 13:38   ` Steven Rostedt

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