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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 28/28] xfs: rework unreferenced inode lookups
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 08:18:34 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191119211834.GA4614@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191119151344.GD10763@bfoster>

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:13:44AM -0500, Brian Foster wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 12:00:47PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 12:26:00PM -0500, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 09:16:02AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 06, 2019 at 05:18:46PM -0500, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > If so, most of this patch will go away....
> > > > 
> > > > > > +	 * attached to the buffer so we don't need to do anything more here.
> > > > > >  	 */
> > > > > > -	if (ip != free_ip) {
> > > > > > -		if (!xfs_ilock_nowait(ip, XFS_ILOCK_EXCL)) {
> > > > > > -			rcu_read_unlock();
> > > > > > -			delay(1);
> > > > > > -			goto retry;
> > > > > > -		}
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > -		/*
> > > > > > -		 * Check the inode number again in case we're racing with
> > > > > > -		 * freeing in xfs_reclaim_inode().  See the comments in that
> > > > > > -		 * function for more information as to why the initial check is
> > > > > > -		 * not sufficient.
> > > > > > -		 */
> > > > > > -		if (ip->i_ino != inum) {
> > > > > > +	if (__xfs_iflags_test(ip, XFS_ISTALE)) {
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is there a correctness reason for why we move the stale check to under
> > > > > ilock (in both iflush/ifree)?
> > > > 
> > > > It's under the i_flags_lock, and so I moved it up under the lookup
> > > > hold of the i_flags_lock so we don't need to cycle it again.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Yeah, but in both cases it looks like it moved to under the ilock as
> > > well, which comes after i_flags_lock. IOW, why grab ilock for stale
> > > inodes when we're just going to skip them?
> > 
> > Because I was worrying about serialising against reclaim before
> > changing the state of the inode. i.e. if the inode has already been
> > isolated by not yet disposed of, we shouldn't touch the inode state
> > at all. Serialisation against reclaim in this patch is via the
> > ILOCK, hence we need to do that before setting ISTALE....
> > 
> 
> Yeah, I think my question still isn't clear... I'm not talking about
> setting ISTALE. The code I referenced above is where we test for it and
> skip the inode if it is already set. For example, the code referenced
> above in xfs_ifree_get_one_inode() currently does the following with
> respect to i_flags_lock, ILOCK and XFS_ISTALE:
> 
> 	...
> 	spin_lock(i_flags_lock)
> 	xfs_ilock_nowait(XFS_ILOCK_EXCL)
> 	if !XFS_ISTALE
> 		skip
> 	set XFS_ISTALE
> 	...

There is another place in xfs_ifree_cluster that sets ISTALE without
the ILOCK held, so the ILOCK is being used here for a different
purpose...

> The reclaim isolate code does this, however:
> 
> 	spin_trylock(i_flags_lock)
> 	if !XFS_ISTALE
> 		skip
> 	xfs_ilock(XFS_ILOCK_EXCL)
> 	...	

Which is fine, because we're not trying to avoid racing with reclaim
here. :) i.e. all we need is the i_flags lock to check the ISTALE
flag safely.

> So my question is why not do something like the following in the
> _get_one_inode() case?
> 
> 	...
> 	spin_lock(i_flags_lock)
> 	if !XFS_ISTALE
> 		skip
> 	xfs_ilock_nowait(XFS_ILOCK_EXCL)
> 	set XFS_ISTALE
> 	...

Because, like I said, I focussed on the lookup racing with reclaim
first. The above code could be used, but it puts object internal
state checks before we really know whether the object is safe to
access and whether we can trust it.

I'm just following a basic RCU/lockless lookup principle here:
don't try to use object state before you've fully validated that the
object is live and guaranteed that it can be safely referenced.

> IOW, what is the need, if any, to acquire ilock in the iflush/ifree
> paths before testing for XFS_ISTALE? Is there some specific intermediate
> state I'm missing or is this just unintentional?

It's entirely intentional - validate and claim the object we've
found in the lockless lookup, then run the code that checks/changes
the object state. Smashing state checks and lockless lookup
validation together is a nasty landmine to leave behind...

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-19 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-31 23:45 [PATCH 00/28] mm, xfs: non-blocking inode reclaim Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 23:45 ` [PATCH 01/28] xfs: Lower CIL flush limit for large logs Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 23:45 ` [PATCH 02/28] xfs: Throttle commits on delayed background CIL push Dave Chinner
2019-11-01 12:04   ` Brian Foster
2019-11-01 21:40     ` Dave Chinner
2019-11-04 22:48       ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-10-31 23:45 ` [PATCH 03/28] xfs: don't allow log IO to be throttled Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 23:45 ` [PATCH 04/28] xfs: Improve metadata buffer reclaim accountability Dave Chinner
2019-11-01 12:05   ` Brian Foster
2019-11-04 23:21   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-10-31 23:45 ` [PATCH 05/28] xfs: correctly acount for reclaimable slabs Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 23:45 ` [PATCH 06/28] xfs: factor common AIL item deletion code Dave Chinner
2019-11-04 23:16   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-10-31 23:45 ` [PATCH 07/28] xfs: tail updates only need to occur when LSN changes Dave Chinner
2019-11-04 23:18   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-10-31 23:45 ` [PATCH 08/28] xfs: factor inode lookup from xfs_ifree_cluster Dave Chinner
2019-11-01 12:05   ` Brian Foster
2019-11-04 23:20   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-10-31 23:45 ` [PATCH 09/28] mm: directed shrinker work deferral Dave Chinner
2019-11-04 15:25   ` Brian Foster
2019-11-14 20:49     ` Dave Chinner
2019-11-15 17:21       ` Brian Foster
2019-11-18  0:49         ` Dave Chinner
2019-11-19 15:12           ` Brian Foster
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 10/28] shrinkers: use defer_work for GFP_NOFS sensitive shrinkers Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 11/28] mm: factor shrinker work calculations Dave Chinner
2019-11-02 10:55   ` kbuild test robot
2019-11-02 10:55     ` kbuild test robot
2019-11-04 15:29   ` Brian Foster
2019-11-14 20:59     ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 12/28] shrinker: defer work only to kswapd Dave Chinner
2019-11-04 15:29   ` Brian Foster
2019-11-14 21:11     ` Dave Chinner
2019-11-15 17:23       ` Brian Foster
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 13/28] shrinker: clean up variable types and tracepoints Dave Chinner
2019-11-04 15:30   ` Brian Foster
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 14/28] mm: reclaim_state records pages reclaimed, not slabs Dave Chinner
2019-11-04 19:58   ` Brian Foster
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 15/28] mm: back off direct reclaim on excessive shrinker deferral Dave Chinner
2019-11-04 19:58   ` Brian Foster
2019-11-14 21:28     ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 16/28] mm: kswapd backoff for shrinkers Dave Chinner
2019-11-04 19:58   ` Brian Foster
2019-11-14 21:41     ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 17/28] xfs: synchronous AIL pushing Dave Chinner
2019-11-05 17:05   ` Brian Foster
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 18/28] xfs: don't block kswapd in inode reclaim Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 19/28] xfs: reduce kswapd blocking on inode locking Dave Chinner
2019-11-05 17:05   ` Brian Foster
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 20/28] xfs: kill background reclaim work Dave Chinner
2019-11-05 17:05   ` Brian Foster
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 21/28] xfs: use AIL pushing for inode reclaim IO Dave Chinner
2019-11-05 17:06   ` Brian Foster
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 22/28] xfs: remove mode from xfs_reclaim_inodes() Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 23/28] xfs: track reclaimable inodes using a LRU list Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 24/28] xfs: reclaim inodes from the LRU Dave Chinner
2019-11-06 17:21   ` Brian Foster
2019-11-14 21:51     ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 25/28] xfs: remove unusued old inode reclaim code Dave Chinner
2019-11-06 17:21   ` Brian Foster
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 26/28] xfs: use xfs_ail_push_all in xfs_reclaim_inodes Dave Chinner
2019-11-06 17:22   ` Brian Foster
2019-11-14 21:53     ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 27/28] rwsem: introduce down/up_write_non_owner Dave Chinner
2019-10-31 23:46 ` [PATCH 28/28] xfs: rework unreferenced inode lookups Dave Chinner
2019-11-06 22:18   ` Brian Foster
2019-11-14 22:16     ` Dave Chinner
2019-11-15 13:13       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-11-15 17:26       ` Brian Foster
2019-11-18  1:00         ` Dave Chinner
2019-11-19 15:13           ` Brian Foster
2019-11-19 21:18             ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2019-11-20 12:42               ` Brian Foster

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