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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>
Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] powerpc/irq: inline call_do_irq() and call_do_softirq()
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 11:40:57 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191207174057.GY3152@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2a22feca-d6d6-6cb0-6c76-035234fa8742@c-s.fr>

On Sat, Dec 07, 2019 at 10:42:28AM +0100, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> Le 06/12/2019 à 21:59, Segher Boessenkool a écrit :
> >If the compiler can see the callee wants the same TOC as the caller has,
> >it does not arrange to set (and restore) it, no.  If it sees it may be
> >different, it does arrange for that (and the linker then will check if
> >it actually needs to do anything, and do that if needed).
> >
> >In this case, the compiler cannot know the callee wants the same TOC,
> >which complicates thing a lot -- but it all works out.
> 
> Do we have a way to make sure which TOC the functions are using ? Is 
> there several TOC at all in kernel code ?

Kernel modules have their own TOC, I think?

> >I think things can still go wrong if any of this is inlined into a kernel
> >module?  Is there anything that prevents this / can this not happen for
> >some fundamental reason I don't see?
> 
> This can't happen can it ?
> do_softirq_own_stack() is an outline function, defined in powerpc irq.c
> Its only caller is do_softirq() which is an outline function defined in 
> kernel/softirq.c
> 
> That prevents inlining, doesn't it ?

Hopefully, sure.  Would be nice if it was clearer that this works...  It
is too much like working by chance, the way it is :-(

> Anyway, until we clarify all this I'll limit my patch to PPC32 which is 
> where the real benefit is I guess.
> 
> At the end, maybe the solution should be to switch to IRQ stack 
> immediately in the exception entry as x86_64 do ?
> 
> And do_softirq_own_stack() could be entirely written in assembly like 
> x86_64 as well ?

Maybe?  I'm out of my depth there.


Segher

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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] powerpc/irq: inline call_do_irq() and call_do_softirq()
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 11:40:57 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191207174057.GY3152@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2a22feca-d6d6-6cb0-6c76-035234fa8742@c-s.fr>

On Sat, Dec 07, 2019 at 10:42:28AM +0100, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> Le 06/12/2019 à 21:59, Segher Boessenkool a écrit :
> >If the compiler can see the callee wants the same TOC as the caller has,
> >it does not arrange to set (and restore) it, no.  If it sees it may be
> >different, it does arrange for that (and the linker then will check if
> >it actually needs to do anything, and do that if needed).
> >
> >In this case, the compiler cannot know the callee wants the same TOC,
> >which complicates thing a lot -- but it all works out.
> 
> Do we have a way to make sure which TOC the functions are using ? Is 
> there several TOC at all in kernel code ?

Kernel modules have their own TOC, I think?

> >I think things can still go wrong if any of this is inlined into a kernel
> >module?  Is there anything that prevents this / can this not happen for
> >some fundamental reason I don't see?
> 
> This can't happen can it ?
> do_softirq_own_stack() is an outline function, defined in powerpc irq.c
> Its only caller is do_softirq() which is an outline function defined in 
> kernel/softirq.c
> 
> That prevents inlining, doesn't it ?

Hopefully, sure.  Would be nice if it was clearer that this works...  It
is too much like working by chance, the way it is :-(

> Anyway, until we clarify all this I'll limit my patch to PPC32 which is 
> where the real benefit is I guess.
> 
> At the end, maybe the solution should be to switch to IRQ stack 
> immediately in the exception entry as x86_64 do ?
> 
> And do_softirq_own_stack() could be entirely written in assembly like 
> x86_64 as well ?

Maybe?  I'm out of my depth there.


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-07 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-10  5:36 [PATCH v4 1/2] powerpc/irq: bring back ksp_limit management in C functions Christophe Leroy
2019-10-10  5:36 ` Christophe Leroy
2019-10-10  5:36 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] powerpc/irq: inline call_do_irq() and call_do_softirq() Christophe Leroy
2019-10-10  5:36   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-11-21  6:14   ` Michael Ellerman
2019-11-21  6:14     ` Michael Ellerman
2019-11-21 10:15     ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-21 10:15       ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-25 10:32       ` Michael Ellerman
2019-11-25 10:32         ` Michael Ellerman
2019-11-25 14:25         ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-25 14:25           ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-27 13:50           ` Christophe Leroy
2019-11-27 13:50             ` Christophe Leroy
2019-11-27 14:59             ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-27 14:59               ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-27 15:15               ` Christophe Leroy
2019-11-27 15:15                 ` Christophe Leroy
2019-11-29 18:46                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-29 18:46                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-04  4:32                   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-04  4:32                     ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-06 20:59                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-06 20:59                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-07  9:42                       ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-07  9:42                         ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-07 17:40                         ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2019-12-07 17:40                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-09 10:53                           ` Michael Ellerman
2019-12-09 10:53                             ` Michael Ellerman
2019-12-19  6:57                             ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-19  6:57                               ` Christophe Leroy

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