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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::343 X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org, Max Reitz Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote: > Am 21.11.2019 um 11:32 hat Stefan Hajnoczi geschrieben: > > On Wed, Nov 06, 2019 at 03:58:00PM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote: > > > Am 06.11.2019 um 15:37 hat Max Reitz geschrieben: > > > > On 17.10.19 15:01, Kevin Wolf wrote: > > > > The only thing I don=E2=80=99t like is the name, but that=E2=80=99s= what is for. > > > > :-) > > >=20 > > > I'm open for suggestions, but I thought 'qsd' was a bit too terse. :-) > > >=20 > > > (Actually, maybe we could even pick something that doesn't mention > > > storage or block? After all, it can do all kinds of QEMU backends in > > > theory. Not sure if there's any standalone use for them, but who > > > knows...) > >=20 > > It's likely that non-storage use cases will want to a daemon too. Maybe > > just qemu-daemon? >=20 > Do you have specific use cases in mind? Most backends seem rather > useless without a device to attach them to. In older QEMU versions, > maybe you could put multiple network backends into a common vlan to > forward between them, but even that vlan concept doesn't exist any more. I was thinking about the model where device emulation happens in the daemon. We've since agreed that device emulation will continue to happen in a more traditional QEMU process, so I can't think of non-storage use cases at the moment. 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