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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, willy@infradead.org, clm@fb.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, david@fromorbit.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] iomap: support RWF_UNCACHED for buffered writes
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 20:15:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191218041546.GN12766@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58036cc3-e0c3-70fe-0ce6-a86754258f24@kernel.dk>

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 08:18:07PM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 12/17/19 6:52 PM, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 07:39:47AM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >> This adds support for RWF_UNCACHED for file systems using iomap to
> >> perform buffered writes. We use the generic infrastructure for this,
> >> by tracking pages we created and calling write_drop_cached_pages()
> >> to issue writeback and prune those pages.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
> >> ---
> >>  fs/iomap/apply.c       | 35 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>  fs/iomap/buffered-io.c | 28 ++++++++++++++++++++++++----
> >>  fs/iomap/trace.h       |  4 +++-
> >>  include/linux/iomap.h  |  5 +++++
> >>  4 files changed, 67 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/fs/iomap/apply.c b/fs/iomap/apply.c
> >> index 792079403a22..687e86945b27 100644
> >> --- a/fs/iomap/apply.c
> >> +++ b/fs/iomap/apply.c
> >> @@ -92,5 +92,40 @@ iomap_apply(struct iomap_ctx *data, const struct iomap_ops *ops,
> >>  				     data->flags, &iomap);
> >>  	}
> >>  
> >> +	if (written <= 0)
> >> +		goto out;
> >> +
> >> +	/*
> >> +	 * If this is an uncached write, then we need to write and sync this
> >> +	 * range of data. This is only true for a buffered write, not for
> >> +	 * O_DIRECT.
> >> +	 */
> > 
> > I tracked down the original conversation, where Dave had this to say:
> > 
> > "Hence, IMO, this is the wrong layer in iomap to be dealing with¬
> > writeback and cache residency for uncached IO. We should be caching¬
> > residency/invalidation at a per-IO level, not a per-page level."
> > 
> > He's right, but I still think it doesn't quite smell right to be putting
> > this in iomap_apply, since that's a generic function that implements
> > iteration and shouldn't be messing with cache invalidation.
> > 
> > So I have two possible suggestions for where to put this:
> > 
> > (1) Add the "flush and maybe invalidate" behavior to the bottom of
> > iomap_write_actor like I said in the v4 patchset.  That will issue
> > writeback and invalidate pagecache in smallish quantities.
> > 
> > (2) Find a way to pass the IOMAP_F_PAGE_CREATE state from
> > iomap_write_actor back to iomap_file_buffered_write and do the
> > flush-and-invalidate for the entire write request once at the end.
> 
> Thanks for your suggestion, I'll look into option 2. Option 1 isn't
> going to work, as smaller quantities is going to cause a performance
> issue for streamed IO.

<nod> I would also conjecture that pushing fewer flushes through xfs
might reduce the amount of seeking writing around that it has to do,
which may or may not help with storage these days.

> >> @@ -851,10 +860,18 @@ iomap_write_actor(const struct iomap_ctx *data, struct iomap *iomap,
> >>  			break;
> >>  		}
> >>  
> >> -		status = iomap_write_begin(inode, pos, bytes, 0, &page, iomap,
> >> -				srcmap);
> >> -		if (unlikely(status))
> >> +retry:
> >> +		status = iomap_write_begin(inode, pos, bytes, flags,
> >> +						&page, iomap, srcmap);
> >> +		if (unlikely(status)) {
> >> +			if (status == -ENOMEM &&
> >> +			    (flags & IOMAP_WRITE_F_UNCACHED)) {
> >> +				iomap->flags |= IOMAP_F_PAGE_CREATE;
> >> +				flags &= ~IOMAP_WRITE_F_UNCACHED;
> > 
> > What's the strategy here?  We couldn't get a page for an uncached write,
> > so try again as a regular cached write?
> 
> The idea is that we start with IOMAP_WRITE_F_UNCACHED set, in which case
> we only do page lookup, not create. If that works, then we know that the
> given page was already in the page cache. If it fails with -ENOMEM, we
> store this information as IOMAP_F_PAGE_CREATE, and then clear
> IOMAP_WRITE_F_UNCACHED and retry. The retry will create the page, and
> now the caller knows that we had to create pages to satisfy this
> write. The caller uses this information to invalidate the entire range.

Ah, ok, it's intrinsic to the operation.  Would you mind putting that in
as a comment?

--D

> Hope that explains better!
> 
> > Thanks for making the updates, it's looking better.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> Jens Axboe
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-18  4:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-17 14:39 [PATCHSET v5 0/6] Support for RWF_UNCACHED Jens Axboe
2019-12-17 14:39 ` [PATCH 1/6] fs: add read support " Jens Axboe
2019-12-17 15:16   ` Guoqing Jiang
2019-12-17 16:42     ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-17 15:57   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-17 16:41     ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-18  3:17   ` Dave Chinner
2019-12-17 14:39 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm: make generic_perform_write() take a struct kiocb Jens Axboe
2019-12-17 14:39 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm: make buffered writes work with RWF_UNCACHED Jens Axboe
2019-12-17 14:39 ` [PATCH 4/6] iomap: add struct iomap_ctx Jens Axboe
2019-12-17 19:39   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-17 19:39     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-17 20:26     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-17 20:26       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-18  0:15       ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-18  1:25         ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-12-26  9:49   ` [iomap] 5c6f67c138: WARNING:at_fs/iomap/buffered-io.c:#iomap_readpages kernel test robot
2019-12-26  9:49     ` kernel test robot
2019-12-17 14:39 ` [PATCH 5/6] iomap: support RWF_UNCACHED for buffered writes Jens Axboe
2019-12-18  1:52   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-12-18  3:18     ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-18  4:15       ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2019-12-17 14:39 ` [PATCH 6/6] xfs: don't do delayed allocations for uncached " Jens Axboe
2019-12-18  1:57   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-12-18  1:57     ` Darrick J. Wong

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