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From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Cc: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 43/86] hppa: drop RAM size fixup
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 16:35:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200102163518.54c36d68@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2953de56-4544-1727-3454-18dc1c19821b@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 15:45:55 +0100
Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 1/2/20 3:41 PM, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 12:31:58 +0100
> > Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de> wrote:
> >   
> >> On 31.12.19 16:44, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:  
> >>> On 12/31/19 2:03 PM, Igor Mammedov wrote:  
> >>>> If user provided non-sense RAM size, board will complain and
> >>>> continue running with max RAM size supported.
> >>>> Also RAM is going to be allocated by generic code, so it won't be
> >>>> possible for board to fix things up for user.
> >>>>
> >>>> Make it error message and exit to force user fix CLI,
> >>>> instead of accepting non-sense CLI values.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>    hw/hppa/machine.c | 3 ++-
> >>>>    1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/hw/hppa/machine.c b/hw/hppa/machine.c
> >>>> index 5d0de26..25f5afc 100644
> >>>> --- a/hw/hppa/machine.c
> >>>> +++ b/hw/hppa/machine.c
> >>>> @@ -92,7 +92,8 @@ static void machine_hppa_init(MachineState *machine)
> >>>>          /* Limit main memory. */
> >>>>        if (ram_size > FIRMWARE_START) {
> >>>> -        machine->ram_size = ram_size = FIRMWARE_START;
> >>>> +        error_report("RAM size more than %d is not supported", FIRMWARE_START);
> >>>> +        exit(EXIT_FAILURE);  
> >>>
> >>> $ qemu-system-hppa -m 3841m
> >>> qemu-system-hppa: invalid accelerator kvm
> >>> qemu-system-hppa: falling back to tcg
> >>> qemu-system-hppa: RAM size more than -268435456 is not supported
> >>>
> >>> Instead of using qemu_strtosz_MiB on FIRMWARE_START or unsigned format, we can simply use "RAM size more than 3840m is not supported". Is that OK with you?  
> >>
> >> I don't really like that change.
> >>
> >> We currently only emulate a 32-bit system, and for those 4GB is the maximum.
> >> So, if I start my machine with "qemu-system-hppa -m 4G", the current code
> >> then automatically uses the maximum possible of 3841MB (which is limited by
> >> firmware start address).
> >> I don't expect users to know the excact 3841MB number.  
> > It's annoying to see a error where it used to work before
> > with no matter what -m value user have used.
> > 
> > But error message tells exact max size one could use,
> > so user doesn't have to know max, just fix CLI with provided value.
> >   
> >> Even on a phyiscal machine you can only add DIMMs of sizes 2GB, 3GB or 4GB,
> >> but not "3841MB".
> >>
> >> So, I think that patch is - although it's more correct - not a
> >> benefit for the end user.  
> > Sure thing that users dislike when we do breaking changes (removing legacy CLI
> > options, fixups or adding error checks that weren't there before).
> > But I'd choose correctness (and consistent codebase) vs convenience.
> > (it's no like we are hiding max from user)  
> 
> Going from 3841MB to 4GB is not a breaking change, and 4GB is correct I 
under breaking change, I've meant exit with error when it used to work with
any values.

But the point in removing fixups to make user aware of valid input and
make clear what's going on when someone reads the code.

QEMU code is already too complex to read, so I'd avoid supporting values
that are not really supported by current impl. just for the sake of convenience.
(a wrapper script could do that RAM size clamping if it is really necessary)

> think. The Raspberry Pi machines do the same (allocate more RAM than the
> CPU is able to access, and DMA is able to use this extra RAM).
In current impl. raspi accepts RAM upto 1Gb maps all of it and reports
that size to the guest. QEMU doesn't mask or waste anything.
If we where to rise limit upto 4Gb, then there should be the code that
would inform and allow guest utilize that.




  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-02 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-31 13:02 [PATCH 00/86] refactor main RAM allocation to use hostmem backend Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 01/86] numa: remove not needed check Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 02/86] numa: properly check if numa is supported Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 03/86] numa: remove deprecated -mem-path fallback to anonymous RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 04/86] machine: introduce ram-memdev property Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 05/86] machine: alias -mem-path and -mem-prealloc into memory-foo backend Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 06/86] machine: introduce convenience MachineState::ram Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 07/86] initialize MachineState::ram in NUMA case Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 08/86] alpha:dp264: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:11   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-06  0:37   ` Richard Henderson
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 09/86] arm:aspeed: convert valid RAM sizes to data Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 10/86] arm:aspeed: actually check RAM size Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 11/86] hw:aspeed: drop warning and bogus ram_size fixup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 12/86] arm:aspeed: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 13/86] arm:collie: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 14/86] arm:cubieboard: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:02 ` [PATCH 15/86] arm:digic_boards: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 16/86] arm:highbank: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 17/86] arm:imx25_pdk: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 18/86] arm:imx25_pdk: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 19/86] arm:integratorcp: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 20/86] arm:kzm: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 21/86] arm:kzm: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:10   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 22/86] arm:mcimx6ul-evk: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 23/86] arm:mcimx7d-sabre: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 24/86] arm:mps2-tz: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 25/86] arm:mps2: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 26/86] arm:musicpal: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 27/86] arm:nseries: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 28/86] arm:omap_sx1: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 29/86] arm:palm: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 30/86] arm:raspi: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 31/86] arm:sabrelite: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 32/86] arm:sbsa-ref: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 33/86] arm:versatilepb: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 34/86] arm:vexpress: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 35/86] arm:virt: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 36/86] arm:xilinx_zynq: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 37/86] arm:xilinx_zynq: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 38/86] arm:xlnx-versal-virt: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:05   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 39/86] arm:xlnx-zcu102: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 40/86] s390x:s390-virtio-ccw: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 41/86] null-machine: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 15:32   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 42/86] cris:axis_dev88: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 43/86] hppa: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 15:44   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 11:31     ` Helge Deller
2020-01-02 12:06       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 13:02         ` Helge Deller
2020-01-02 14:47           ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 14:12         ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 14:17           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 15:08             ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 15:49               ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 16:50                 ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 17:14                   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 17:32                     ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 20:09                 ` Helge Deller
2020-01-02 14:41       ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 14:45         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 15:35           ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2020-01-02 15:40             ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 17:08   ` [PATCH] hppa: allow max ram size upto 4Gb Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 17:15     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-02 17:36       ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 17:46       ` [PATCH v2] " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 20:22         ` Helge Deller
2020-01-03  9:54           ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-04 15:00             ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-06 10:48               ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-06 11:05                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-06 11:28                 ` Helge Deller
2020-01-06 16:24                   ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-06 17:03                     ` Helge Deller
2020-01-07 11:21                       ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-07 11:53                         ` Helge Deller
2020-01-07 15:17                           ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-07 15:34   ` [PATCH v3 43/86] " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 44/86] hppa: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 15:45   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 45/86] x86:microvm: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 46/86] x86:pc: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 47/86] lm32:lm32_boards: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 48/86] lm32:milkymist: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 49/86] m68k:an5206: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-07 16:11   ` Thomas Huth
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 50/86] m68k:mcf5208: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-07 16:11   ` Thomas Huth
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 51/86] m68k:next-cube: " Igor Mammedov
2020-01-07 16:12   ` Thomas Huth
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 52/86] mips:boston-cube: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:08   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 53/86] mips:mips_fulong2e: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 54/86] mips:mips_fulong2e: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 55/86] mips:mips_jazz: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:06   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 56/86] mips:mips_malta: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:07   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 57/86] mips:mips_mipssim: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:07   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 58/86] mips:mips_r4k: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:08   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 59/86] ppc:e500: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 60/86] ppc:e500: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 61/86] ppc:mac_newworld: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 62/86] ppc:mac_oldworld: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 63/86] ppc:pnv: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 64/86] ppc:ppc405_boards: add RAM size checks Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 65/86] ppc:ppc405_boards: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 66/86] ppc:ppc440_bamboo/sam460ex: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2020-01-01 11:54   ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-01-01 15:39     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-01-01 18:45       ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-01-02 11:47     ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-02 15:52       ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-01-02 17:19         ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-10 17:14         ` Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 67/86] ppc:ppc440_bamboo/sam460ex: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 68/86] ppc:prep: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 69/86] ppc:spapr: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 70/86] ppc:virtex_ml507: remove unused arguments Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 71/86] ppc:virtex_ml507: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 72/86] sparc:leon3: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:02   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 73/86] sparc:sun4m: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 74/86] sparc:niagara: " Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:02   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:03 ` [PATCH 75/86] remove no longer used memory_region_allocate_system_memory() Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 76/86] post conversion default_ram_id cleanup Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 16:04   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 77/86] exec: cleanup qemu_minrampagesize()/qemu_maxrampagesize() Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 78/86] exec: drop bogus mem_path from qemu_ram_alloc_from_fd() Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 79/86] make mem_path local variable Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 80/86] hostmem: introduce "prealloc-threads" property Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 81/86] hostmem: fix strict bind policy Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 82/86] numa: forbid '-numa node, mem' for 5.0 and newer machine types Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 83/86] tests:numa-test: make top level args dynamic and g_autofree(cli) cleanups Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 84/86] tests:numa-test: use explicit memdev to specify node RAM Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 85/86] numa: make exit() usage consistent Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 13:04 ` [PATCH 86/86] numa: remove deprecated implicit RAM distribution between nodes Igor Mammedov
2019-12-31 15:58 ` [PATCH 00/86] refactor main RAM allocation to use hostmem backend Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-31 16:22   ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-03 13:06   ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-03 13:15     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

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