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From: Wei Yang <richardw.yang@linux.intel.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Wei Yang <richardw.yang@linux.intel.com>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: thp: grab the lock before manipulation defer list
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 08:35:43 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200108003543.GA13943@richard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200107083808.GC32178@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 09:38:08AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
>On Tue 07-01-20 09:22:41, Wei Yang wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 11:23:45AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
>> >On Fri 03-01-20 22:34:07, Wei Yang wrote:
>> >> As all the other places, we grab the lock before manipulate the defer list.
>> >> Current implementation may face a race condition.
>> >
>> >Please always make sure to describe the effect of the change. Why a racy
>> >list_empty check matters?
>> >
>> 
>> Hmm... access the list without proper lock leads to many bad behaviors.
>
>My point is that the changelog should describe that bad behavior.
>
>> For example, if we grab the lock after checking list_empty, the page may
>> already be removed from list in split_huge_page_list. And then list_del_init
>> would trigger bug.
>
>And how does list_empty check under the lock guarantee that the page is
>on the deferred list?

Just one confusion, is this kind of description basic concept of concurrent
programming? How detail level we need to describe the effect?

To me, grab the lock before accessing the critical section is obvious.
list_empty and list_del should be the critical section. And the
lock should protect the whole critical section instead of part of it.

>-- 
>Michal Hocko
>SUSE Labs

-- 
Wei Yang
Help you, Help me

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-08  0:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-03 14:34 [RFC PATCH] mm: thp: grab the lock before manipulation defer list Wei Yang
2020-01-03 19:29 ` David Rientjes
2020-01-03 19:29   ` David Rientjes
2020-01-03 23:39   ` Wei Yang
2020-01-04  0:44     ` David Rientjes
2020-01-04  0:44       ` David Rientjes
2020-01-06  1:20       ` Wei Yang
2020-01-06 10:23 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-07  1:22   ` Wei Yang
2020-01-07  8:38     ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-08  0:35       ` Wei Yang [this message]
2020-01-08  9:40         ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-09  2:03           ` Wei Yang
2020-01-09  8:34             ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-09  2:03           ` Wei Yang
2020-01-09  3:18           ` Wei Yang
2020-01-09  8:36             ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-09  8:52               ` Wei Yang
2020-01-06 16:18 ` Alexander Duyck
2020-01-06 16:18   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-01-07  1:26   ` Wei Yang
2020-01-07  2:07     ` David Rientjes
2020-01-07  2:07       ` David Rientjes
2020-01-07  2:33       ` Wei Yang

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