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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, io-uring <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>,
	Glauber Costa <glauber@scylladb.com>,
	Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] io_uring: add per-task callback handler
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 11:47:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200221104740.GE18400@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez1sQi7ntGnLxyo9X_642-wr55+Kn662XyyEYGLyi0iLwQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 11:02:16PM +0100, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 9:32 PM Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
> >
> > For poll requests, it's not uncommon to link a read (or write) after
> > the poll to execute immediately after the file is marked as ready.
> > Since the poll completion is called inside the waitqueue wake up handler,
> > we have to punt that linked request to async context. This slows down
> > the processing, and actually means it's faster to not use a link for this
> > use case.
> >
> > We also run into problems if the completion_lock is contended, as we're
> > doing a different lock ordering than the issue side is. Hence we have
> > to do trylock for completion, and if that fails, go async. Poll removal
> > needs to go async as well, for the same reason.
> >
> > eventfd notification needs special case as well, to avoid stack blowing
> > recursion or deadlocks.
> >
> > These are all deficiencies that were inherited from the aio poll
> > implementation, but I think we can do better. When a poll completes,
> > simply queue it up in the task poll list. When the task completes the
> > list, we can run dependent links inline as well. This means we never
> > have to go async, and we can remove a bunch of code associated with
> > that, and optimizations to try and make that run faster. The diffstat
> > speaks for itself.
> [...]
> > -static void io_poll_trigger_evfd(struct io_wq_work **workptr)
> > +static void io_poll_task_func(struct callback_head *cb)
> >  {
> > -       struct io_kiocb *req = container_of(*workptr, struct io_kiocb, work);
> > +       struct io_kiocb *req = container_of(cb, struct io_kiocb, sched_work);
> > +       struct io_kiocb *nxt = NULL;
> >
> [...]
> > +       io_poll_task_handler(req, &nxt);
> > +       if (nxt)
> > +               __io_queue_sqe(nxt, NULL);
> 
> This can now get here from anywhere that calls schedule(), right?
> Which means that this might almost double the required kernel stack
> size, if one codepath exists that calls schedule() while near the
> bottom of the stack and another codepath exists that goes from here
> through the VFS and again uses a big amount of stack space? This is a
> somewhat ugly suggestion, but I wonder whether it'd make sense to
> check whether we've consumed over 25% of stack space, or something
> like that, and if so, directly punt the request.

I'm still completely confused as to how io_uring works, and concequently
the ramifications of all this.

But I thought to understand that these sched_work things were only
queued on tasks that were stuck waiting on POLL (or it's io_uring
equivalent). Earlier patches were explicitly running things from
io_cqring_wait(), which might have given me this impression.

The above seems to suggest this is not the case. Which then does indeed
lead to all the worries expressed by Jann. All sorts of nasty nesting is
possible with this.

Can someone please spell this out for me?

Afaict the req->tsk=current thing is set for whomever happens to run
io_poll_add_prep(), which is either a sys_io_uring_enter() or an io-wq
thread afaict.

But I'm then unsure what happens to that thread afterwards.

Jens, what exactly is the benefit of running this on every random
schedule() vs in io_cqring_wait() ? Or even, since io_cqring_wait() is
the very last thing the syscall does, task_work.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-02-21 10:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-20 20:31 [PATCHSET 0/9] io_uring: use polled async retry Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 20:31 ` [PATCH 1/9] io_uring: consider any io_read/write -EAGAIN as final Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 20:31 ` [PATCH 2/9] io_uring: io_accept() should hold on to submit reference on retry Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 20:31 ` [PATCH 3/9] sched: move io-wq/workqueue worker sched in/out into helpers Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 20:31 ` [PATCH 4/9] task_work_run: don't take ->pi_lock unconditionally Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 20:31 ` [PATCH 5/9] kernel: abstract out task work helpers Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 21:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-20 21:08     ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 20:31 ` [PATCH 6/9] sched: add a sched_work list Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 21:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-20 21:53     ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 22:02       ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 20:31 ` [PATCH 7/9] io_uring: add per-task callback handler Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 22:02   ` Jann Horn
2020-02-20 22:14     ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 22:18       ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 22:25         ` Jann Horn
2020-02-20 22:23       ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 22:38         ` Jann Horn
2020-02-20 22:56           ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 22:58             ` Jann Horn
2020-02-20 23:02               ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 22:23       ` Jann Horn
2020-02-20 23:00         ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 23:12           ` Jann Horn
2020-02-20 23:22             ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-21  1:29               ` Jann Horn
2020-02-21 17:32                 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-21 19:24                   ` Jann Horn
2020-02-21 20:18                     ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 22:56     ` Jann Horn
2020-02-21 10:47     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2020-02-21 14:49       ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-21 15:02         ` Jann Horn
2020-02-21 16:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-21 16:23         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-21 20:13           ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-21 13:51   ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-02-21 14:50     ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-21 18:30       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-02-21 19:10         ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-21 19:22           ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-02-23  6:00           ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-23  6:26             ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-23 11:02               ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-02-23 14:49                 ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-23 14:58                   ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-23 15:07                     ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-23 18:04                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-02-23 18:06                         ` Jens Axboe
2020-02-23 17:55                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-02-20 20:31 ` [PATCH 8/9] io_uring: mark requests that we can do poll async in io_op_defs Jens Axboe
2020-02-20 20:31 ` [PATCH 9/9] io_uring: use poll driven retry for files that support it Jens Axboe

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