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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
Cc: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org,
	David Ahern <dahern@digitalocean.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next] virtio_net: Relax queue requirement for using XDP
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 03:23:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200226032204-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wo89zroe.fsf@toke.dk>

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 09:19:45AM +0100, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > On 2/25/20 8:00 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> >> 
> >> On 2020/2/26 上午8:57, David Ahern wrote:
> >>> From: David Ahern <dahern@digitalocean.com>
> >>>
> >>> virtio_net currently requires extra queues to install an XDP program,
> >>> with the rule being twice as many queues as vcpus. From a host
> >>> perspective this means the VM needs to have 2*vcpus vhost threads
> >>> for each guest NIC for which XDP is to be allowed. For example, a
> >>> 16 vcpu VM with 2 tap devices needs 64 vhost threads.
> >>>
> >>> The extra queues are only needed in case an XDP program wants to
> >>> return XDP_TX. XDP_PASS, XDP_DROP and XDP_REDIRECT do not need
> >>> additional queues. Relax the queue requirement and allow XDP
> >>> functionality based on resources. If an XDP program is loaded and
> >>> there are insufficient queues, then return a warning to the user
> >>> and if a program returns XDP_TX just drop the packet. This allows
> >>> the use of the rest of the XDP functionality to work without
> >>> putting an unreasonable burden on the host.
> >>>
> >>> Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> >>> Cc: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> >>> Signed-off-by: David Ahern <dahern@digitalocean.com>
> >>> ---
> >>>   drivers/net/virtio_net.c | 14 ++++++++++----
> >>>   1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> >>> index 2fe7a3188282..2f4c5b2e674d 100644
> >>> --- a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> >>> +++ b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> >>> @@ -190,6 +190,8 @@ struct virtnet_info {
> >>>       /* # of XDP queue pairs currently used by the driver */
> >>>       u16 xdp_queue_pairs;
> >>>   +    bool can_do_xdp_tx;
> >>> +
> >>>       /* I like... big packets and I cannot lie! */
> >>>       bool big_packets;
> >>>   @@ -697,6 +699,8 @@ static struct sk_buff *receive_small(struct
> >>> net_device *dev,
> >>>               len = xdp.data_end - xdp.data;
> >>>               break;
> >>>           case XDP_TX:
> >>> +            if (!vi->can_do_xdp_tx)
> >>> +                goto err_xdp;
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I wonder if using spinlock to synchronize XDP_TX is better than dropping
> >> here?
> >
> > I recall you suggesting that. Sure, it makes for a friendlier user
> > experience, but if a spinlock makes this slower then it goes against the
> > core idea of XDP.
> 
> IMO a spinlock-arbitrated TX queue is something that should be available
> to the user if configured (using that queue abstraction Magnus is
> working on), but not the default, since as you say that goes against the
> "performance first" mantra of XDP.
> 
> -Toke

OK so basically there would be commands to configure which TX queue is
used by XDP. With enough resources default is to use dedicated queues.
With not enough resources default is to fail binding xdp program
unless queues are specified. Does this sound reasonable?
It remains to define how are changes in TX queue config handled.
Should they just be disallowed as long as there's an active XDP program?


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-26  8:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-26  0:57 [PATCH RFC net-next] virtio_net: Relax queue requirement for using XDP David Ahern
2020-02-26  1:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-26  3:00 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26  3:24   ` David Ahern
2020-02-26  3:29     ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26  3:34       ` David Ahern
2020-02-26  3:52         ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26  4:35           ` David Ahern
2020-02-26  5:51             ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26  8:19     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-26  8:23       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2020-02-26  8:34         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-26  8:42           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26  9:02             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-26  9:32               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 15:58           ` David Ahern
2020-02-26 16:21             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-26 17:08             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 21:31               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-27  3:27           ` David Ahern
2020-02-27 10:19             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-27 10:41               ` Magnus Karlsson
2020-09-28  3:13                 ` David Ahern
2020-09-28 14:25                   ` Magnus Karlsson
2020-09-29  2:44                     ` David Ahern
2020-02-26  6:48   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26  7:28     ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26  8:21       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26  6:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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