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From: Daniel Kiper <dkiper@net-space.pl>
To: Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko <phcoder@gmail.com>
Cc: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/12] kern: Make grub_error() more verbose
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 12:27:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200309112704.o2tzxzx75zzy7tp5@tomti.i.net-space.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEaD8JN_gsJSEv=U0GxeBcVjZ8FY4Vt1pTkpgaERsS-28KVjRw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 02:37:43PM +0100, Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko wrote:
> Le ven. 6 mars 2020 à 13:43, Daniel Kiper <dkiper@net-space.pl> a écrit :
>
> > Re-adding grub-devel@gnu.org...
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 12:44:05PM +0100, Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
> > wrote:
> > > Le ven. 6 mars 2020 à 12:42, Daniel Kiper <dkiper@net-space.pl> a écrit
> > :
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 03:22:31PM +0100, Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Please evaluate size increase for this. In the past passing file and
> > line
> > > > > number to grub_dprintf was a huge source of increased Kern and core
> > size
> > > >
> > > > I think it does not matter much if we stop pretending that we support
> > > > small MBR gaps right now [1]. Does it?
> > > >
> > > There are still a lot of installations that used older tools and never
> > > reformatted. We still care about them
> >
> > If we go that way then we have to care about them by the end of the
> > universe. And this means more and more issues like [1]. If somebody
> > wants to use new GRUB then he/she have to reinstall the machine or
> > something like that. IMO we should not care about users who do not want
> > upgrade their machines or whatnot. Or at least their choices cannot
> > impact GRUB development too much. And I think that this MBR constraint
> > is hindering the project too much at this point. So, as above...
> >
> > Sorry for being blunt...
> >
> It does not. Core doesn't need to have everything and the kitchen sink.
> It's small by design.

I am not saying that. I am saying that limitations of one ancient platform
should not make development of other platforms more difficult.

Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-09 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-04 11:58 [PATCH v2 00/12] A set of trivial patches from the Fedora package Javier Martinez Canillas
2020-03-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] linux/getroot: Handle rssd storage device names Javier Martinez Canillas
2020-03-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] efi: Print more debug info in our module loader Javier Martinez Canillas
2020-03-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] Makefile: Make libgrub.pp depend on config-util.h Javier Martinez Canillas
2020-03-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] kern: Add grub_debug_enabled() Javier Martinez Canillas
2020-03-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] normal/completion: Fix possible NULL pointer dereference Javier Martinez Canillas
2020-03-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] efi/gop: Add support for BLT_ONLY adapters Javier Martinez Canillas
2020-03-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] efi/uga: Use 64 bit for fb_base Javier Martinez Canillas
2020-03-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] kern: Make grub_error() more verbose Javier Martinez Canillas
2020-03-05 13:54   ` Daniel Kiper
2020-03-05 14:22   ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2020-03-06 11:37     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2020-03-06 11:41       ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2020-03-06 12:10         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2020-03-06 11:42     ` Daniel Kiper
     [not found]       ` <CAEaD8JOV4heW-NU1L=PTm3ycad6nwUX8PLmEjWoYgYBTm4d1QA@mail.gmail.com>
2020-03-06 12:43         ` Daniel Kiper
2020-03-06 13:37           ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2020-03-09 11:27             ` Daniel Kiper [this message]
2020-03-06 14:01           ` Didier Spaier
2020-03-06 14:38             ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2020-03-06 16:30               ` Didier Spaier
2020-03-06 16:39                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2020-03-06 17:10                   ` Didier Spaier
2020-03-06 17:23                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2020-03-06 17:03             ` David Michael
2020-03-06 17:12               ` Bruce Dubbs
2020-03-06 17:19                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2020-03-06 17:45               ` Didier Spaier
2020-03-06 21:02               ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2020-03-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] efi: Print error messages to grub_efi_allocate_pages_real() Javier Martinez Canillas
2020-03-05 13:56   ` Daniel Kiper
2020-03-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] efi/uga: Use video instead of fb as debug condition Javier Martinez Canillas
2020-03-05 13:56   ` Daniel Kiper
2020-03-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] efi/gop: Add debug output on GOP probing Javier Martinez Canillas
2020-03-05 13:57   ` Daniel Kiper
2020-03-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] efi: Fix the type of grub_efi_status_t Javier Martinez Canillas

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