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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Lorenz Bauer <lmb@cloudflare.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	kernel-team@cloudflare.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Return fds from privileged sockhash/sockmap lookup
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 18:58:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200312015822.bhu6ptkx5jpabkr6@ast-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200310174711.7490-1-lmb@cloudflare.com>

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 05:47:06PM +0000, Lorenz Bauer wrote:
> We want to use sockhash and sockmap to build the control plane for
> our upcoming BPF socket dispatch work. We realised that it's
> difficult to resize or otherwise rebuild these maps if needed,
> because there is no way to get at their contents. This patch set
> allows a privileged user to retrieve fds from these map types,
> which removes this obstacle.
> 
> The approach here is different than that of program arrays and
> nested maps, which return an ID that can be turned into an fd
> using the BPF_*_GET_FD_BY_ID syscall. Sockets have IDs in the
> form of cookies, however there seems to be no way to go from
> a socket cookie to struct socket or struct file. Hence we
> return an fd directly.

we do store the socket FD into a sockmap, but returning new FD to that socket
feels weird. The user space suppose to hold those sockets. If it was bpf prog
that stored a socket then what does user space want to do with that foreign
socket? It likely belongs to some other process. Stealing it from other process
doesn't feel right.
Sounds like the use case is to take sockets one by one from one map, allocate
another map and store them there? The whole process has plenty of races. I
think it's better to tackle the problem from resize perspective. imo making it
something like sk_local_storage (which is already resizable pseudo map of
sockets) is a better way forward.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-12  1:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-10 17:47 [PATCH 0/5] Return fds from privileged sockhash/sockmap lookup Lorenz Bauer
2020-03-10 17:47 ` [PATCH 1/5] bpf: add map_copy_value hook Lorenz Bauer
2020-03-10 17:47 ` [PATCH 2/5] bpf: convert queue and stack map to map_copy_value Lorenz Bauer
2020-03-11 14:00   ` Jakub Sitnicki
2020-03-11 22:31     ` John Fastabend
2020-03-10 17:47 ` [PATCH 3/5] bpf: convert sock map and hash " Lorenz Bauer
2020-03-11 13:55   ` Jakub Sitnicki
2020-03-10 17:47 ` [PATCH 4/5] bpf: sockmap, sockhash: return file descriptors from privileged lookup Lorenz Bauer
2020-03-11 23:27   ` John Fastabend
2020-03-17 10:17     ` Lorenz Bauer
2020-03-17 15:18   ` Jakub Sitnicki
2020-03-17 18:16     ` John Fastabend
2020-03-10 17:47 ` [PATCH 5/5] bpf: sockmap, sockhash: test looking up fds Lorenz Bauer
2020-03-11 13:52   ` Jakub Sitnicki
2020-03-11 17:24     ` Lorenz Bauer
2020-03-11 13:44 ` [PATCH 0/5] Return fds from privileged sockhash/sockmap lookup Jakub Sitnicki
2020-03-11 22:40   ` John Fastabend
2020-03-12  1:58 ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2020-03-12  9:16   ` Lorenz Bauer
2020-03-12 17:58     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-12 19:32       ` John Fastabend
2020-03-13 11:03         ` Lorenz Bauer
2020-03-13 10:48       ` Lorenz Bauer
2020-03-14  2:58         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-17  9:55           ` Lorenz Bauer
2020-03-17 19:05             ` John Fastabend
2020-03-20 15:12               ` Lorenz Bauer
2020-04-07  3:08                 ` Alexei Starovoitov

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