From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6A4C2BB1D for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fraxinus.osuosl.org (smtp4.osuosl.org [140.211.166.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DB0E206B7 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:42:40 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 2DB0E206B7 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fraxinus.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE7B87700; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:42:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from fraxinus.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K8Jx2Muytkp4; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.linuxfoundation.org (lf-lists.osuosl.org [140.211.9.56]) by fraxinus.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62956876F6; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lf-lists.osuosl.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBB5C1D89; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whitealder.osuosl.org (smtp1.osuosl.org [140.211.166.138]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C327AC0177; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by whitealder.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22FB88D0A; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:42:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from whitealder.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q6lAl5tdVHlM; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:42:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by whitealder.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A93088D5B; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gandalf.local.home (cpe-66-24-58-225.stny.res.rr.com [66.24.58.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6BE7206B7; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:42:03 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 11:42:02 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Sasha Levin Message-ID: <20200313114202.3bf423ea@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20200313130536.GD1349@sasha-vm> References: <6d6dd6fa-880f-01fe-6177-281572aed703@labbott.name> <20200312003436.GF1639@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> <20200313031947.GC225435@mit.edu> <87d09gljhj.fsf@intel.com> <20200313093548.GA2089143@kroah.com> <877dzolf7n.fsf@intel.com> <20200313130536.GD1349@sasha-vm> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- Change to charter X-BeenThere: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Sender: "Ksummit-discuss" On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 09:05:36 -0400 Sasha Levin wrote: > Personally, I think that our definition of who can vote should be "any > member of our community", but it's not practical, right? The question is, how do you define "any member of the community". Should drive by patch senders have the same influence as the a maintainer that is spending hours working on the project? It really comes down to what is the TAB? It is the Linux Foundation's Technical Advisory Board. As the name suggests, its the way to have influence to the Linux Foundation on behalf of the Linux kernel community. I really believe that those with the largest stakes in the success of the Linux kernel have the most influence. Otherwise we could easily end up with mob mentality and get the same kind of representation that the United States currently has. -- Steve _______________________________________________ Ksummit-discuss mailing list Ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ksummit-discuss From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75598C10DCE for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E87206B7 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726776AbgCMPmF (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Mar 2020 11:42:05 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:46536 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726420AbgCMPmE (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Mar 2020 11:42:04 -0400 Received: from gandalf.local.home (cpe-66-24-58-225.stny.res.rr.com [66.24.58.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6BE7206B7; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:42:03 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 11:42:02 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Sasha Levin Cc: Jani Nikula , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- Change to charter Message-ID: <20200313114202.3bf423ea@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20200313130536.GD1349@sasha-vm> References: <6d6dd6fa-880f-01fe-6177-281572aed703@labbott.name> <20200312003436.GF1639@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> <20200313031947.GC225435@mit.edu> <87d09gljhj.fsf@intel.com> <20200313093548.GA2089143@kroah.com> <877dzolf7n.fsf@intel.com> <20200313130536.GD1349@sasha-vm> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 09:05:36 -0400 Sasha Levin wrote: > Personally, I think that our definition of who can vote should be "any > member of our community", but it's not practical, right? The question is, how do you define "any member of the community". Should drive by patch senders have the same influence as the a maintainer that is spending hours working on the project? It really comes down to what is the TAB? It is the Linux Foundation's Technical Advisory Board. As the name suggests, its the way to have influence to the Linux Foundation on behalf of the Linux kernel community. I really believe that those with the largest stakes in the success of the Linux kernel have the most influence. Otherwise we could easily end up with mob mentality and get the same kind of representation that the United States currently has. -- Steve From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 11:42:02 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt Message-ID: <20200313114202.3bf423ea@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20200313130536.GD1349@sasha-vm> References: <6d6dd6fa-880f-01fe-6177-281572aed703@labbott.name> <20200312003436.GF1639@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> <20200313031947.GC225435@mit.edu> <87d09gljhj.fsf@intel.com> <20200313093548.GA2089143@kroah.com> <877dzolf7n.fsf@intel.com> <20200313130536.GD1349@sasha-vm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- Change to charter List-Id: Public TAB discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Sasha Levin Cc: Jani Nikula , "tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 09:05:36 -0400 Sasha Levin wrote: > Personally, I think that our definition of who can vote should be "any > member of our community", but it's not practical, right? The question is, how do you define "any member of the community". Should drive by patch senders have the same influence as the a maintainer that is spending hours working on the project? It really comes down to what is the TAB? It is the Linux Foundation's Technical Advisory Board. As the name suggests, its the way to have influence to the Linux Foundation on behalf of the Linux kernel community. I really believe that those with the largest stakes in the success of the Linux kernel have the most influence. Otherwise we could easily end up with mob mentality and get the same kind of representation that the United States currently has. -- Steve