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From: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
To: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <rasmus.villemoes@prevas.dk>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, x86 <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Kenneth R. Crudup" <kenny@panix.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	Thomas Hellstrom <thellstrom@vmware.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"jannh@google.com" <jannh@google.com>,
	"keescook@chromium.org" <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] x86,module: Detect VMX modules and disable Split-Lock-Detect
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 10:21:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200403172129.GE2701@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FF9F1233-1312-4B98-A476-0C20D92200E3@vmware.com>

On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 04:48:35PM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 09:25:55AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> >> On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 06:12:05PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 09:01:56AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 05:21:58PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 04:35:00PM +0200, Jessica Yu wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>>>> I wonder if it would make sense then to limit the text scans to just
> >>>>>> out-of-tree modules (i.e., missing the intree modinfo flag)?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> It would; didn't know there was one.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Rather than scanning modules at all, what about hooking native_write_cr4()
> >>>> to kill SLD if CR4.VMXE is toggled on and the caller didn't increment a
> >>>> "sld safe" counter?
> >>> 
> >>> And then you're hoping that the module uses that and not:
> >>> 
> >>>  asm volatile ("mov %0, cr4" :: "r" (val));
> >>> 
> >>> I think I feel safer with the scanning to be fair. Also with the intree
> >>> hint on, we can extend the scanning for out-of-tree modules for more
> >>> dodgy crap we really don't want modules to do, like for example the
> >>> above.
> >> 
> >> Ya, that's the big uknown.  But wouldn't they'd already be broken in the
> >> sense that they'd corrupt the CR4 shadow?  E.g. setting VMXE without
> >> updating cpu_tlbstate.cr4 would result in future in-kernel writes to CR4
> >> attempting to clear CR4.VMXE post-VMXON, which would #GP.
> > 
> > Sadly the CR4 shadow is exported, so they can actually fix that up :/
> 
> I do not think that Sean’s idea would work for VMware.

Well phooey.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-03 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-02 12:32 [patch 0/2] x86: Prevent Split-Lock-Detection wreckage on VMX hypervisors Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-02 12:32 ` [patch 1/2] x86,module: Detect VMX modules and disable Split-Lock-Detect Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-02 15:23   ` [patch v2 " Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-02 16:20     ` Xiaoyao Li
2020-04-02 16:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-02 16:39         ` Nadav Amit
2020-04-02 16:41         ` Xiaoyao Li
2020-04-02 17:34           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-02 17:51             ` Sean Christopherson
2020-04-02 18:51               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-02 20:23                 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-04-02 21:04                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-02 21:16                     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-04-03  8:09     ` David Laight
2020-04-03 14:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-02 23:42   ` [patch " Rasmus Villemoes
2020-04-03 14:35     ` Jessica Yu
2020-04-03 15:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-03 16:01         ` Sean Christopherson
2020-04-03 16:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-03 16:16             ` David Laight
2020-04-03 16:39               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-03 16:25             ` Sean Christopherson
2020-04-03 16:40               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-03 16:48                 ` Nadav Amit
2020-04-03 17:21                   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2020-04-03 18:53         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-03 20:58           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-04-03 21:49             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-03 11:29   ` kbuild test robot
2020-04-03 11:29     ` [patch 1/2] x86, module: " kbuild test robot
2020-04-03 14:43   ` [patch 1/2] x86,module: " kbuild test robot
2020-04-03 14:43     ` [patch 1/2] x86, module: " kbuild test robot
2020-04-03 16:36   ` [patch 1/2] x86,module: " Sean Christopherson
2020-04-03 16:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-03 18:35       ` Jessica Yu
2020-04-06 12:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-06 14:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-06 15:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-06 15:22         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-06 18:27           ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-02 12:33 ` [patch 2/2] x86/kvm/vmx: Prevent split lock detection induced #AC wreckage Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-02 15:30   ` Sean Christopherson
2020-04-02 15:44     ` Nadav Amit
2020-04-02 16:04       ` Sean Christopherson
2020-04-02 16:56     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-02 15:55   ` [PATCH 0/3] x86: KVM: VMX: Add basic split-lock #AC handling Sean Christopherson
2020-04-02 15:55     ` [PATCH 1/3] KVM: x86: Emulate split-lock access as a write in emulator Sean Christopherson
2020-04-02 15:55     ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/split_lock: Refactor and export handle_user_split_lock() for KVM Sean Christopherson
2020-04-02 17:01       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-02 17:19         ` Sean Christopherson
2020-04-02 19:06           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-10  4:39             ` Xiaoyao Li
2020-04-10 10:21               ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-02 15:55     ` [PATCH 3/3] KVM: VMX: Extend VMX's #AC interceptor to handle split lock #AC in guest Sean Christopherson
2020-04-02 17:19       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-02 17:40         ` Sean Christopherson
2020-04-02 20:07           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-02 20:36             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-04-02 20:48             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-02 20:51             ` Sean Christopherson
2020-04-02 22:27               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-02 22:40                 ` Nadav Amit
2020-04-02 23:03                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-02 23:08                   ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-02 23:16                     ` Kenneth R. Crudup
2020-04-02 23:18                       ` Jim Mattson
2020-04-03 12:16                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-10 10:23     ` [PATCH 0/3] x86: KVM: VMX: Add basic split-lock #AC handling Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-10 11:14       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-02 13:43 ` [patch 0/2] x86: Prevent Split-Lock-Detection wreckage on VMX hypervisors Kenneth R. Crudup
2020-04-02 14:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-02 14:41     ` Kenneth R. Crudup
2020-04-02 14:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-02 14:53         ` Kenneth R. Crudup
2020-04-02 14:37   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-02 14:47     ` Nadav Amit
2020-04-02 15:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-02 14:53 [patch 1/2] x86,module: Detect VMX modules and disable Split-Lock-Detect Andy Lutomirski
2020-04-02 15:02 ` Kenneth R. Crudup
2020-04-02 16:46   ` Thomas Gleixner

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