From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499B4C54FC9 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 01:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [203.11.71.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B472020882 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 01:31:45 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org B472020882 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=libc.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Received: from lists.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [IPv6:2401:3900:2:1::3]) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4958LR4nK6zDqmC for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:31:43 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; spf=none (no SPF record) smtp.mailfrom=libc.org (client-ip=216.12.86.13; helo=brightrain.aerifal.cx; envelope-from=dalias@libc.org; receiver=) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=libc.org Received: from brightrain.aerifal.cx (216-12-86-13.cv.mvl.ntelos.net [216.12.86.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4958HY2hQrzDqc8 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:29:10 +1000 (AEST) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:29:04 -0400 From: Rich Felker To: Nicholas Piggin Subject: Re: [musl] Powerpc Linux 'scv' system call ABI proposal take 2 Message-ID: <20200420012904.GY11469@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <1586931450.ub4c8cq8dj.astroid@bobo.none> <20200415225539.GL11469@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <1586994952.nnxigedbu2.astroid@bobo.none> <20200416095800.GC23945@port70.net> <1587341904.1r83vbudyf.astroid@bobo.none> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1587341904.1r83vbudyf.astroid@bobo.none> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: libc-dev@lists.llvm.org, Szabolcs Nagy , Nicholas Piggin via Libc-alpha , linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, musl@lists.openwall.com Errors-To: linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "Linuxppc-dev" On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:27:58AM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote: > Excerpts from Szabolcs Nagy's message of April 16, 2020 7:58 pm: > > * Nicholas Piggin via Libc-alpha [2020-04-16 10:16:54 +1000]: > >> Well it would have to test HWCAP and patch in or branch to two > >> completely different sequences including register save/restores yes. > >> You could have the same asm and matching clobbers to put the sequence > >> inline and then you could patch the one sc/scv instruction I suppose. > > > > how would that 'patch' work? > > > > there are many reasons why you don't > > want libc to write its .text > > I guess I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to libraries. > Shame if there is no good way to load-time patch libc. It's orthogonal > to the scv selection though -- if you don't patch you have to > conditional or indirect branch however you implement it. Patched pages cannot be shared. The whole design of PIC and shared libraries is that the code("text")/rodata is immutable and shared and that only a minimal amount of data, packed tightly together (the GOT) has to exist per-instance. Also, allowing patching of executable pages is generally frowned upon these days because W^X is a desirable hardening property. Rich