From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29926C55186 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011EA20704 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726035AbgDYKPx (ORCPT ); Sat, 25 Apr 2020 06:15:53 -0400 Received: from luckmann.name ([213.239.213.133]:34541 "EHLO static.213-239-213-133.clients.your-server.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726046AbgDYKPx (ORCPT ); Sat, 25 Apr 2020 06:15:53 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 502) by static.213-239-213-133.clients.your-server.de with local id 0000000000E5602F.000000005EA40DD7.00005BD9; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:15:51 +0200 Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:15:51 +0200 From: Helge Kreutzmann To: =?utf-8?B?IkthaSBNw6RraXNhcmEgKEtvbHVtYnVzKSI=?= Cc: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" , linux-man , Mario =?utf-8?Q?Bl=C3=A4ttermann?= Subject: Re: Errors in man pages, here: st(4): Content Message-ID: <20200425101551.GA22709@Debian-50-lenny-64-minimal> References: <20200419064827.GA32117@Debian-50-lenny-64-minimal> <4A645675-6A27-4CC9-B8A8-EB7644DEC710@kolumbus.fi> <168DA6F5-D54B-48E4-A8E1-3FF081ABE6BC@kolumbus.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=_luckmann.name-23513-1587809751-0001-2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <168DA6F5-D54B-48E4-A8E1-3FF081ABE6BC@kolumbus.fi> X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.helgefjell.de/data/debian_neu.asc X-homepage: http://www.helgefjell.de/debian User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-man-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org This is a MIME-formatted message. If you see this text it means that your E-mail software does not support MIME-formatted messages. --=_luckmann.name-23513-1587809751-0001-2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Kai, On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 09:51:11PM +0300, "Kai M=C3=A4kisara (Kolumbus)" wr= ote: > > On 20. Apr 2020, at 21.29, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 17:51, "Kai M=C3=A4kisara (Kolumbus)" > > wrote: > >>> On 20. Apr 2020, at 11.13, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > >>>=20 > >>> [CC +=3D Kai] > >>>=20 > >>> (Kai, I got a pile of queries from a downstream translation project) > >>>=20 > >>> On 4/19/20 8:48 AM, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > >>>> Dear manpages maintainers. > >>>>=20 > >> ... > >>>> We cannot understand the last sentence. What is "forward spacing"? > >>>>=20 > >>>> "This option causes the B operation to be sent directly to th= e drive, " > >>>> "potentially speeding up the operation but causing the driver to los= e track " > >>>> "of the current file number normally returned by the B req= uest. If " > >>>> "B is false, the driver will respond to an B = request " > >>>> "by forward spacing over files." > >>>=20 > >>> Perhaps Kai can help. I do not have a good explanation. > >>>=20 > >> Spacing in tape terminology means going to the next file (or record or= set mark). > >> The drives usually support a command to go to the end of the tape. The > >> drawback is that no information is obtained about the number of files = skipped. > >> If the driver spaces forward over files one by one, it can count how m= any > >> files have been skipped. > >>=20 > >> This is the technical description. But the text also says what is the = consequence > >> for a user that does not care about technology. Spacing is mentions al= so > >> earlier in the text. > >=20 > > So, no text changes needed here, right? > >=20 > I don=E2=80=99t think changes are needed. But the discussion in my other = answer applies > also here. Thanks for the explanation. I added a note in the translation file, updated the translation accordingly and put the current translator in charge in CC so he is aware of this discussion. So for my side this issue can be closed. Greetings Helge P.S. For this issue I tried to search for the term "space over" but did not find the right pages, including Wikipedia (but I might have missed the right search keys). --=20 Dr. Helge Kreutzmann debian@helgefjell.de Dipl.-Phys. http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php 64bit GNU powered gpg signed mail preferred Help keep free software "libre": http://www.ffii.de/ --=_luckmann.name-23513-1587809751-0001-2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEbZZfteMW0gNUynuwQbqlJmgq5nAFAl6kDdQACgkQQbqlJmgq 5nB4Kw/8CbzeTZWOr+2cdiT8QvCwhpS7Sw/EUNw+5FOXUQRZwQWK/EKyb1bfD7Md qxxAf9JoGpI/eI/ndAlq2Y26TXsS6M36gtuv2e3EDxTPzFyBeQSDANiOMDaI6NuX 21K8docB2pddGMyT45sMjuYpei4zQT9R6Cb5H31YK05m1LMYzQw4Xq5ZTX3xAQct LW2LN/+bwIHs5tpqe4ygq+Pany59e0rpp7Qeez3sw45CJ6pzRy/NgTxAGf8nHy1n Nuk5kVGmA0YMxWtZ+tBg3pLZeixVDI65hDQ0OQUBnL06KAk1e2N2rUTKgBDQrUMX hvRrehzIU8Z6jlRzFT9serLTtjUR9BrZ86lbVlFrsZ3WD9dF0oAPnbyReo/OkQxs njTR6yP9IPUkTtrE62a7ptneZ5lOLXHceDCPUrd/Xcx7z/zH3KB7FWfz8WgBY5+a CV6ioPFaKfifC4cn0TAbG2MdZmlpXok3GB3LSoatFRdRVizwUtVoCo5Ug9R8uOUB B7ZZ8D7+vJtMAJnfRGUndnCf78FotC9jtgc+wV5BNjaIk6osInZ6OOj5/2LxfSDe qXQ3PMbLDD0wkrWxtvKRz6IEWBxkv92se8t/PI2UjO0pLuZab/fyflWkpKzan0Nm p/hFTlFM8wCmUwExC85GKdxwtZEsr0sBGhC3Nfoquex/w8ZGhIQ= =TI21 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_luckmann.name-23513-1587809751-0001-2--