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From: Elliott Mitchell <ehem+xen@m5p.com>
To: Corey Minyard <minyard@acm.org>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>,
	Roman Shaposhnik <roman@zededa.com>,
	jeff.kubascik@dornerworks.com,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@xilinx.com>
Subject: Re: Troubles running Xen on Raspberry Pi 4 with 5.6.1 DomU
Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 11:48:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200502184836.GA96674@mattapan.m5p.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200502173529.GH9902@minyard.net>

On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 12:35:29PM -0500, Corey Minyard wrote:
> On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 12:46:14PM +0100, Julien Grall wrote:
> > 
> > On 02/05/2020 03:16, Corey Minyard wrote:
> > > 
> > > Nope.  If you say 4096M of RAM, your issue is almost certainly DMA, but
> > > it's not (just) the Linux code.  On the Raspberry Pi 4, several devices
> > > cannot DMA to above 1024M of RAM, but Xen does not handle this.  The
> > > 1024M of RAM is a limitation you will have to live with until Xen has a
> > > fix.
> > 
> > IIUC, dom0 would need to have some memory below 1GB for this to work, am I
> > correct?
> 
> No.  If I am understanding this correctly, all the memory in dom0 below
> 1GB would have to be physically below 1GB.
> 
> The Linux patch set starts at:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20191015174616.GO13874@arrakis.emea.arm.com/t/
> 

Actually, things get worse.  What if someone wants to run an X-server in
DomU and have a DomU accessing the graphics hardware?  Really needs to be
a case of allocating DMA-capable memory means talking to Xen.

As pointed out in that discussion different boards are going to have the
DMA-borderline in different places.  There could be enough variation that
it needs to be settable at run time.  Then some boards might have some
DMA devices which can access all memory, and some which cannot (full-DMA
versus limited-DMA?).


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-02 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-01  2:20 Troubles running Xen on Raspberry Pi 4 with 5.6.1 DomU Roman Shaposhnik
2020-05-01 11:42 ` Corey Minyard
2020-05-02  1:06   ` Roman Shaposhnik
2020-05-02  2:16     ` Corey Minyard
2020-05-02 11:46       ` Julien Grall
2020-05-02 17:35         ` Corey Minyard
2020-05-02 17:48           ` Julien Grall
2020-05-04 12:44             ` Corey Minyard
2020-05-04 20:54               ` Roman Shaposhnik
2020-05-05  3:52                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-05-05  5:36                   ` Roman Shaposhnik
2020-05-05 22:34                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-05-06  1:25                       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2020-05-06  4:19                       ` Roman Shaposhnik
2020-05-06  5:41                       ` Jürgen Groß
2020-05-06  8:54                         ` Peng Fan
2020-05-06 13:08                           ` Nataliya Korovkina
2020-05-06 13:42                             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2020-05-06 16:14                               ` Nataliya Korovkina
2020-05-06 17:34                                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-05-06 21:12                                   ` Roman Shaposhnik
2020-05-13  0:33                                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-05-13 10:11                                       ` Julien Grall
2020-05-13 15:11                                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-05-13 18:19                                           ` Julien Grall
2020-05-13 18:26                                             ` Julien Grall
2020-05-13 19:51                                               ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-06-02 18:34                                                 ` Corey Minyard
2020-06-02 19:24                                                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-06-03 15:29                                                     ` Corey Minyard
2020-06-03 15:37                                                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-06-03 19:49                                                         ` Corey Minyard
2020-06-03 19:55                                                         ` Roman Shaposhnik
2020-05-13 19:13                                             ` Roman Shaposhnik
2020-05-13 19:49                                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-05-06 17:35                                 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2020-05-06 21:10                                   ` Roman Shaposhnik
2020-05-06 17:16                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-05-06 17:32                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-05-02 18:48           ` Elliott Mitchell [this message]
2020-05-02 19:43             ` Julien Grall
2020-05-06 13:48         ` Corey Minyard
2020-05-06 13:56           ` Julien Grall
2020-05-02  0:05 ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-05-02  1:12   ` Roman Shaposhnik

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