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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/33] block: Add generic bdrv_inherited_options()
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 13:19:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200507111920.GC6019@linux.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7d226c94-2f14-eddb-b795-f8a961023947@redhat.com>

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Am 07.05.2020 um 10:49 hat Max Reitz geschrieben:
> On 06.05.20 12:37, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > Am 18.02.2020 um 13:42 hat Max Reitz geschrieben:
> >> +    if (role & BDRV_CHILD_COW) {
> >> +        /* backing files are always opened read-only */
> > 
> > Not "always", just by default.
> 
> OK.  I just copied the comment from bdrv_backing_options().

Yes, sorry, I noticed this only later (it's how review goes when a move
is split into a copy in one patch and a removal later). I don't insist
on a change if you prefer to have a clean copy.

> >> +        qdict_set_default_str(child_options, BDRV_OPT_READ_ONLY, "on");
> >> +        qdict_set_default_str(child_options, BDRV_OPT_AUTO_READ_ONLY, "off");
> >> +    } else {
> >> +        /* Inherit the read-only option from the parent if it's not set */
> >> +        qdict_copy_default(child_options, parent_options, BDRV_OPT_READ_ONLY);
> >> +        qdict_copy_default(child_options, parent_options,
> >> +                           BDRV_OPT_AUTO_READ_ONLY);
> >> +    }
> >> +
> >> +    if (parent_is_format && !(role & BDRV_CHILD_COW)) {
> >> +        /*
> >> +         * Our format drivers take care to send flushes and respect
> >> +         * unmap policy, so we can default to enable both on lower
> >> +         * layers regardless of the corresponding parent options.
> >> +         */
> >> +        qdict_set_default_str(child_options, BDRV_OPT_DISCARD, "unmap");
> >> +    }
> > 
> > Why the restriction to format here? Don't we break "unmap" propagation
> > through filters with this?
> 
> Right now (before this series), the behavior seems ambiguous, in that
> for filters that use bs->file, it is set, but for those that use
> bs->backing, it isn’t.

It's probably easy to agree that this is a bug.

> But I suspect the main reason for what I did is the way I interpreted
> the comment (which before this series only mentions block drivers in
> general, not specifically format drivers): It sounded to me as if the
> block driver needed to respect the unmap policy, and I didn’t think
> filters did that.  So it was my understanding that filter drivers would
> just propagate discards and thus we couldn’t default-enable unmap on
> their children.

This was actually my thought as well. And in order to propagate, we have
to copy the option from parent_options, no? Currently it will always be
disabled (unless specified explicitly for the node) because that's the
default setting for unmap.

> But I was wrong, the block driver doesn’t need to respect anything,
> because bdrv_co_pdiscard() already does.
> 
> So I suppose it should indeed be enabled for all children, with the
> comment changed to express that it isn’t any block driver that respects
> unmap policy, but bdrv_co_pdiscard(), e.g.:
> 
> bdrv_co_pdiscard() respects unmap policy for the parent, so we can
> default to enable it on lower layers regardless of the parent option.

This would restore the behaviour before this series for child_file and
child_format. It would be different in that it also enables "unmap" for
backing files, which should be okay.

> > It would probably also be a good question why we don't propagate it to
> > the backing file, but this is preexisting.
> 
> I suppose we should, although it’s irrelevant, so.  I suppose I’ll just
> drop the parent_is_format, adjust the comment and that should be fine
> for this series.

Isn't it relevant for zero writes during active commit? (The "normal"
intermediate commit job doesn't even try to optimise zero blocks...)

The job will have its own BdrvChild to access the node, but option
inheritance happens only from the parent that "owns" the backing file,
so if a qcow2 image doesn't set "unmap" on its COW child, unmap will be
disabled for the active commit job, too.

(Oops. Turns out that it's not the case because the 'unmap' option for
the job exists only for drive-mirror. blockdev-mirror passes true
unconditionally and block-commit passes false unconditionally. I'm
always amazed how consistently we fail to be consistent.

But I think using zero writes with MAY_UNMAP in a commit job is an
obvious extension, so considering it now can't hurt anyway.)

Kevin

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-07 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-18 12:42 [PATCH v3 00/33] block: Introduce real BdrvChildRole Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 01/33] block: Add BlockDriver.is_format Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 02/33] block: Rename BdrvChildRole to BdrvChildClass Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 03/33] block: Add BdrvChildRole and BdrvChildRoleBits Max Reitz
2020-02-18 13:05   ` Eric Blake
2020-05-05 11:19   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-05-05 11:59     ` Max Reitz
2020-05-05 12:54       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-05-05 13:20         ` Max Reitz
2020-05-05 13:38           ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 04/33] block: Add BdrvChildRole to BdrvChild Max Reitz
2020-02-18 13:06   ` Eric Blake
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 05/33] block: Pass BdrvChildRole to bdrv_child_perm() Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 06/33] block: Pass BdrvChildRole to .inherit_options() Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 07/33] block: Pass parent_is_format " Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 08/33] block: Rename bdrv_inherited_options() Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 09/33] block: Add generic bdrv_inherited_options() Max Reitz
2020-05-06 10:37   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-05-06 13:11     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-05-07  9:18       ` Max Reitz
2020-05-07  8:49     ` Max Reitz
2020-05-07 11:19       ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2020-05-07 11:34         ` Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 10/33] block: Use bdrv_inherited_options() Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 11/33] block: Unify bdrv_child_cb_attach() Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 12/33] block: Unify bdrv_child_cb_detach() Max Reitz
2020-05-06 12:41   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-05-07  9:09     ` Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 13/33] block: Add child_of_bds Max Reitz
2020-05-06 12:59   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 14/33] block: Distinguish paths in *_format_default_perms Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 15/33] block: Pull out bdrv_default_perms_for_backing() Max Reitz
2020-05-06 13:21   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-05-07  9:19     ` Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 16/33] block: Pull out bdrv_default_perms_for_storage() Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 17/33] block: Split bdrv_default_perms_for_storage() Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 18/33] block: Add bdrv_default_perms() Max Reitz
2020-05-06 13:47   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-05-07  9:26     ` Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 19/33] raw-format: Split raw_read_options() Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 20/33] block: Switch child_format users to child_of_bds Max Reitz
2020-02-18 13:10   ` Eric Blake
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 21/33] block: Drop child_format Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 22/33] block: Make backing files child_of_bds children Max Reitz
2020-05-06 16:37   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-05-07  9:28     ` Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 23/33] block: Drop child_backing Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 24/33] block: Make format drivers use child_of_bds Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 25/33] block: Make filter " Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 26/33] block: Use child_of_bds in remaining places Max Reitz
2020-05-06 17:04   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-05-07  9:33     ` Max Reitz
2020-05-07 11:32       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 27/33] tests: Use child_of_bds instead of child_file Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 28/33] block: Use bdrv_default_perms() Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 29/33] block: Make bdrv_filter_default_perms() static Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 30/33] block: Drop bdrv_format_default_perms() Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 31/33] block: Drop child_file Max Reitz
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 32/33] block: Pass BdrvChildRole in remaining cases Max Reitz
2020-05-06 17:13   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-05-07  9:36     ` Max Reitz
2020-05-07 11:40       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-18 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 33/33] block: Drop @child_class from bdrv_child_perm() Max Reitz

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