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McKenney" , Ingo Molnar , Dmitry Vyukov Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/18] Rework READ_ONCE() to improve codegen Message-ID: <20200513174747.GB24836@willie-the-truck> References: <20200512190755.GL2957@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20200513111057.GN2957@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20200513123243.GO2957@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20200513124021.GB20278@willie-the-truck> <20200513165008.GA24836@willie-the-truck> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 07:32:58PM +0200, Marco Elver wrote: > On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 18:50, Will Deacon wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 03:15:55PM +0200, Marco Elver wrote: > > > On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 14:40, Will Deacon wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 02:32:43PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 01:48:41PM +0200, Marco Elver wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Disabling most instrumentation for arch/x86 is reasonable. Also fine > > > > > > with the __READ_ONCE/__WRITE_ONCE changes (your improved > > > > > > compiler-friendlier version). > > > > > > > > > > > > We likely can't have both: still instrument __READ_ONCE/__WRITE_ONCE > > > > > > (as Will suggested) *and* avoid double-instrumentation in arch_atomic. > > > > > > If most use-cases of __READ_ONCE/__WRITE_ONCE are likely to use > > > > > > data_race() or KCSAN_SANITIZE := n anyway, I'd say it's reasonable for > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > I agree that Peter's patch is the right thing to do for now. I was hoping we > > > > could instrument __{READ,WRITE}_ONCE(), but that we before I realised that > > > > __no_sanitize_or_inline doesn't seem to do anything. > > > > > > > > > Right, if/when people want sanitize crud enabled for x86 I need > > > > > something that: > > > > > > > > > > - can mark a function 'no_sanitize' and all code that gets inlined into > > > > > that function must automagically also not get sanitized. ie. make > > > > > inline work like macros (again). > > > > > > > > > > And optionally: > > > > > > > > > > - can mark a function explicitly 'sanitize', and only when an explicit > > > > > sanitize and no_sanitize mix in inlining give the current > > > > > incompatible attribute splat. > > > > > > > > > > That way we can have the noinstr function attribute imply no_sanitize > > > > > and frob the DEFINE_IDTENTRY*() macros to use (a new) sanitize_or_inline > > > > > helper instead of __always_inline for __##func(). > > > > > > > > Sounds like a good plan to me, assuming the compiler folks are onboard. > > > > In the meantime, can we kill __no_sanitize_or_inline and put it back to > > > > the old __no_kasan_or_inline, which I think simplifies compiler.h and > > > > doesn't mislead people into using the function annotation to avoid KCSAN? > > > > > > > > READ_ONCE_NOCHECK should also probably be READ_ONCE_NOKASAN, but I > > > > appreciate that's a noisier change. > > > > > > So far so good, except: both __no_sanitize_or_inline and > > > __no_kcsan_or_inline *do* avoid KCSAN instrumenting plain accesses, it > > > just doesn't avoid explicit kcsan_check calls, like those in > > > READ/WRITE_ONCE if KCSAN is enabled for the compilation unit. That's > > > just because macros won't be redefined just for __no_sanitize > > > functions. Similarly, READ_ONCE_NOCHECK does work as expected, and its > > > access is unchecked. > > > > > > This will have the expected result: > > > __no_sanitize_or_inline void foo(void) { x++; } // no data races reported > > > > > > This will not work as expected: > > > __no_sanitize_or_inline void foo(void) { READ_ONCE(x); } // data > > > races are reported > > > > But the problem is that *this* does not work as expected: > > > > unsigned long __no_sanitize_or_inline foo(unsigned long *ptr) > > { > > return READ_ONCE_NOCHECK(*ptr); > > } > > > > which I think means that the function annotation is practically useless. > > Let me understand the problem better: > > - We do not want __tsan_func_entry/exit (looking at the disassembly, > these aren't always generated). > - We do not want kcsan_disable/enable calls (with the new __READ_ONCE version). > - We do *not* want the call to __read_once_word_nocheck if we have > __no_sanitize_or_inline. AFAIK that's the main problem -- this applies > to both KASAN and KCSAN. Sorry, I should've been more explicit. The code above, with KASAN enabled, compiles to: ffffffff810a2d50 : ffffffff810a2d50: 48 8b 07 mov (%rdi),%rax ffffffff810a2d53: c3 retq but with KCSAN enabled, compiles to: ffffffff8109ecd0 : ffffffff8109ecd0: 53 push %rbx ffffffff8109ecd1: 48 89 fb mov %rdi,%rbx ffffffff8109ecd4: 48 8b 7c 24 08 mov 0x8(%rsp),%rdi ffffffff8109ecd9: e8 52 9c 1a 00 callq ffffffff81248930 <__tsan_func_entry> ffffffff8109ecde: 48 89 df mov %rbx,%rdi ffffffff8109ece1: e8 1a 00 00 00 callq ffffffff8109ed00 <__read_once_word_nocheck> ffffffff8109ece6: 48 89 c3 mov %rax,%rbx ffffffff8109ece9: e8 52 9c 1a 00 callq ffffffff81248940 <__tsan_func_exit> ffffffff8109ecee: 48 89 d8 mov %rbx,%rax ffffffff8109ecf1: 5b pop %rbx ffffffff8109ecf2: c3 retq Is that expected? There don't appear to be any more annotations to throw at it. > From what I gather, we want to just compile the function as if the > sanitizer was never enabled. One reason for why this doesn't quite > work is because of the preprocessor. > > Note that the sanitizers won't complain about these accesses, which > unfortunately is all these attributes ever were documented to do. So > the attributes aren't completely useless. Why doesn't > K[AC]SAN_SANITIZE := n work? I just don't get the point in having a function annotation if you then have to pass flags at the per-object level. That also then necessitates either weird refactoring and grouping of code into "noinstrument.c" type files, or blanket disabling of instrumentation for things like arch/x86/ Will