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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/10] rcu: Allow to deactivate nocb on a CPU
Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 15:47:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200514224735.GA2869@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200514223021.GA4071@lenoir>

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:30:23AM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 08:47:07AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:45:26AM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > This last seems best to me.  The transition from CBLIST_NOT_OFFLOADED
> > to CBLIST_OFFLOADING of course needs to be on the CPU in question with
> > at least bh disabled.  Probably best to be holding rcu_nocb_lock(),
> > but that might just be me being overly paranoid.
> 
> So that's in the case of offloading, right? Well, I don't think we'd
> need to even disable bh nor lock nocb. We just need the current CPU
> to see the local update of cblist->offloaded = CBLIST_OFFLOADING
> before the kthread is unparked:
> 
>     cblist->offloaded = CBLIST_OFFLOADING;
>     /* Make sure subsequent softirq lock nocb */
>     barrier();
>     kthread_unpark(rdp->nocb_cb_thread);
> 
> Now, although that guarantees that nocb_cb will see CBLIST_OFFLOADING
> upon unparking, it's not guaranteed that the nocb_gp will see it on its
> next round. Ok so eventually you're right, I should indeed lock nocb...

I suspect that our future selves would hate us much less if we held
that lock.  ;-)

> > > > > +static long rcu_nocb_rdp_deoffload(void *arg)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	struct rcu_data *rdp = arg;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	WARN_ON_ONCE(rdp->cpu != raw_smp_processor_id());
> > > > > +	__rcu_nocb_rdp_deoffload(rdp);
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	return 0;
> > > > > +}
> > > > 
> > > > For example, is the problem caused by invocations of this
> > > > rcu_nocb_rdp_deoffload() function?
> > > 
> > > How so?
> > 
> > It looked to me like it wasn't excluding either rcu_barrier() or CPU
> > hotplug.  It might also not have been pinning onto the CPU in question,
> > but that might just be me misremembering.  Then again, I didn't see a
> > call to it, so maybe its callers set things up appropriately.
> > 
> > OK, I will bite...  What is the purpose of rcu_nocb_rdp_deoffload()?  ;-)
> 
> Ah it's called using work_on_cpu() which launch a workqueue on the
> target and waits for completion. And that whole thing is protected
> inside the barrier mutex and hotplug.

Ah!  Yet again, color me blind.

							Thanx, Paul

> > Agreed!  And I do believe that concurrent callback execution will
> > prove better than a possibly indefinite gap in callback execution.
> 
> Mutual agreement! :-)
> 
> Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-14 22:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-13 16:47 [PATCH 00/10] rcu: Allow a CPU to leave and reenter NOCB state Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 01/10] rcu: Directly lock rdp->nocb_lock on nocb code entrypoints Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-20 12:29   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-22 17:57     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-26 15:21       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 16:29         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-26 20:18           ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 21:09             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-26 21:27               ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 22:29                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-27  0:45                   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-27  0:58                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-04 11:41       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-04 16:36         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-08 12:57           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-09 18:02             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-10 13:12               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-10 14:02                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-10 22:12                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-10 23:21                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-11  1:32                       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 02/10] rcu: Use direct rdp->nocb_lock operations on local calls Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 03/10] rcu: Make locking explicit in do_nocb_deferred_wakeup_common() Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-26 19:54   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 19:59   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 04/10] rcu: Implement rcu_segcblist_is_offloaded() config dependent Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:20   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 23:03     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:47       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 05/10] rcu: Remove useless conditional nocb unlock Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 06/10] rcu: Make nocb_cb kthread parkable Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-11  1:34   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 07/10] rcu: Temporarily assume that nohz full CPUs might not be NOCB Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:25   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 23:08     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:50       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-14 22:49         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 08/10] rcu: Allow to deactivate nocb on a CPU Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:38   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 22:45     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:47       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-14 22:30         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 22:47           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2020-05-14 22:55             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-26 21:20   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 22:49     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-04 13:10       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-11  1:32         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-11 17:03           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-04 13:14     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 09/10] rcu: Allow to re-offload a CPU that used to be nocb Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:41   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 10/10] rcu: Nocb (de)activate through sysfs Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:42   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 23:23     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:51       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 18:15 ` [PATCH 00/10] rcu: Allow a CPU to leave and reenter NOCB state Paul E. McKenney

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