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From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	xin.zeng@intel.com, "QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/3] memory: drop guest writes to read-only ram device regions
Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 02:15:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200528061511.GC1378@joy-OptiPlex-7040> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bec3aa98-2df2-f1e9-3188-b7c0e395c934@redhat.com>

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 07:10:46AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 28/05/20 06:35, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:26:35AM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> >> On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 11:20, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>> Not all of them, only those that need to return MEMTX_ERROR.  I would
> >>> like some guidance from Peter as to whether (or when) reads from ROMs
> >>> should return MEMTX_ERROR.  This way, we can use that information to
> >>> device  what the read-only ram-device regions should do.
> >>
> >> In general I think writes to ROMs (and indeed reads from ROMs) should
> >> not return MEMTX_ERROR. I think that in real hardware you could have
> >> a ROM that behaved either way; so our default behaviour should probably
> >> be to do what we've always done and not report a MEMTX_ERROR. (If we
> >> needed to I suppose we should implement a MEMTX_ERROR-reporting ROM,
> >> but to be honest there aren't really many real ROMs in systems these
> >> days: it's more often flash, whose response to writes is defined
> >> by the spec and is I think to ignore writes which aren't the
> >> magic "shift to program-the-flash-mode" sequence.)
> >>
> > then should I just drop the writes to read-only ram-device regions and
> > vfio regions without returning MEMTX_ERROR?
> > do you think it's good?
> 
> I am not really sure, I have to think more about it.  I think read-only
> RAMD regions are slightly different because the guest can expect "magic"
> behavior from RAMD regions (e.g. registers that trigger I/O on writes)
> that are simply not there for ROM.  So I'm still inclined to queue your
> v6 patch series.
> 
ok. thank you Paolo. :) 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-28  6:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-30  8:07 [PATCH v6 0/3] drop writes to read-only ram device & vfio regions Yan Zhao
2020-04-30  8:09 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] memory: drop guest writes to read-only ram device regions Yan Zhao
2020-04-30  9:40   ` Peter Maydell
2020-04-30 10:11     ` Yan Zhao
2020-05-21 14:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-25  1:18       ` Yan Zhao
2020-05-25 10:20         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-25 10:54           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-25 11:04             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-26  2:11               ` Yan Zhao
2020-05-26  9:14                 ` Peter Maydell
2020-05-26  9:26           ` Peter Maydell
2020-05-28  4:35             ` Yan Zhao
2020-05-28  5:10               ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-28  6:15                 ` Yan Zhao [this message]
2020-04-30  8:13 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] hw/vfio: drop guest writes to ro regions Yan Zhao
2020-04-30  8:13 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] hw/vfio: let read-only flag take effect for mmap'd regions Yan Zhao

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