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From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Ioana Ciornei <ioana.ciornei@nxp.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	vladimir.oltean@nxp.com, claudiu.manoil@nxp.com,
	alexandru.marginean@nxp.com, michael@walle.cc, andrew@lunn.ch,
	f.fainelli@gmail.com, olteanv@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 5/9] net: dsa: add support for phylink_pcs_ops
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 13:16:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200622121609.GN1605@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200622111057.GM1605@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 12:10:57PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux admin wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:22:13AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux admin wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 01:54:47AM +0300, Ioana Ciornei wrote:
> > > In order to support split PCS using PHYLINK properly, we need to add a
> > > phylink_pcs_ops structure.
> > > 
> > > Note that a DSA driver that wants to use these needs to implement all 4
> > > of them: the DSA core checks the presence of these 4 function pointers
> > > in dsa_switch_ops and only then does it add a PCS to PHYLINK. This is
> > > done in order to preserve compatibility with drivers that have not yet
> > > been converted, or don't need, a split PCS setup.
> > > 
> > > Also, when pcs_get_state() and pcs_an_restart() are present, their mac
> > > counterparts (mac_pcs_get_state(), mac_an_restart()) will no longer get
> > > called, as can be seen in phylink.c.
> > 
> > I don't like this at all, it means we've got all this useless layering,
> > and that layering will force similar layering veneers into other parts
> > of the kernel (such as the DPAA2 MAC driver, when we eventually come to
> > re-use pcs-lynx there.)
> > 
> > I don't think we need that - I think we can get to a position where
> > pcs-lynx is called requesting that it bind to phylink as the PCS, and
> > it calls phylink_add_pcs() directly, which means we do not end up with
> > veneers in DSA nor in the DPAA2 MAC driver - they just need to call
> > the pcs-lynx initialisation function with the phylink instance for it
> > to attach to.
> > 
> > Yes, that requires phylink_add_pcs() to change slightly, and for there
> > to be a PCS private pointer, as I have previously stated.  At the
> > moment, changing that is really easy - the phylink PCS backend has no
> > in-tree users at the moment.  So there is no reason not to get this
> > correct right now.
> 
> How about something like this?  I don't want to embed a mdio_device
> inside struct phylink_pcs because that would not be appropriate for
> some potential users (e.g., Marvell 88E6xxx DSA drivers, Marvell
> NETA, PP2, etc.)

Just to be clear, I'm expecting discussion on this approach, rather
than a patch series appearing - I've already tweaked this patch
slightly, adding a "poll" option to cater for the "pcs_poll" facility
that was introduced into the phylink_config structure - which I think
makes more sense here, as it's all part of the PCS.

I'd like there to be some concensus _before_ I go through the users
I have in my tree converting them to this, rather than converting
them, and then having to convert them to something else.

So, if we can agree on what this should look like, then I feel it
would make the development process a lot easier for everyone
concerned.

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-22 12:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-21 22:54 [PATCH net-next v3 0/9] net: phy: add Lynx PCS MDIO module Ioana Ciornei
2020-06-21 22:54 ` [PATCH net-next v3 1/9] net: phylink: add interface to configure clause 22 PCS PHY Ioana Ciornei
2020-06-21 22:54 ` [PATCH net-next v3 2/9] net: phylink: consider QSGMII interface mode in phylink_mii_c22_pcs_get_state Ioana Ciornei
2020-06-21 22:54 ` [PATCH net-next v3 3/9] net: mdiobus: add clause 45 mdiobus write accessor Ioana Ciornei
2020-06-21 22:54 ` [PATCH net-next v3 4/9] net: phy: add Lynx PCS module Ioana Ciornei
2020-06-22 10:12   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-06-23 11:49     ` Ioana Ciornei
2020-06-23 12:03       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-06-22 23:04   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-06-21 22:54 ` [PATCH net-next v3 5/9] net: dsa: add support for phylink_pcs_ops Ioana Ciornei
2020-06-22 10:22   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-06-22 11:10     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-06-22 12:16       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin [this message]
2020-06-22 12:35         ` Ioana Ciornei
2020-06-22 13:14           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-06-22 13:51             ` Ioana Ciornei
2020-06-22 14:07               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-06-21 22:54 ` [PATCH net-next v3 6/9] net: dsa: felix: unconditionally configure MAC speed to 1000Mbps Ioana Ciornei
2020-06-21 22:54 ` [PATCH net-next v3 7/9] net: dsa: felix: set proper pause frame timers based on link speed Ioana Ciornei
2020-06-21 22:54 ` [PATCH net-next v3 8/9] net: dsa: felix: use resolved link config in mac_link_up() Ioana Ciornei
2020-06-21 22:54 ` [PATCH net-next v3 9/9] net: dsa: felix: use the Lynx PCS helpers Ioana Ciornei
2020-06-22  9:29 ` [PATCH net-next v3 0/9] net: phy: add Lynx PCS MDIO module Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-06-22  9:34   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-06-30  6:01     ` Michael Walle
2020-07-01 13:37       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-01 13:49         ` Michael Walle

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