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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfs: use MMAPLOCK around filemap_map_pages()
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 10:00:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200629170048.GR7606@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200623221431.GB2005@dread.disaster.area>

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 08:14:31AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 02:19:10PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 03:20:59PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> > > 
> > > The page faultround path ->map_pages is implemented in XFS via
> > 
> > What does "faultround" mean?
> 
> Typo - fault-around.
> 
> i.e. when we take a read page fault, the do_read_fault() code first
> opportunistically tries to map a range of pages surrounding
> surrounding the faulted page into the PTEs, not just the faulted
> page. It uses ->map_pages() to do the page cache lookups for
> cached pages in the range of the fault around and then inserts them
> into the PTES is if finds any.
> 
> If the fault-around pass did not find the page fault page in cache
> (i.e. vmf->page remains null) then it calls into do_fault(), which
> ends up calling ->fault, which we then lock the MMAPLOCK and call
> into filemap_fault() to populate the page cache and read the data
> into it.
> 
> So, essentially, fault-around is a mechanism to reduce page faults
> in the situation where previous readahead has brought adjacent pages
> into the page cache by optimistically mapping up to
> fault_around_bytes into PTEs on any given read page fault.
> 
> > I'm pretty convinced that this is merely another round of whackamole wrt
> > taking the MMAPLOCK before relying on or doing anything to pages in the
> > page cache, I just can't tell if 'faultround' is jargon or typo.
> 
> Well, it's whack-a-mole in that this is the first time I've actually
> looked at what map_pages does. I knew there was fault-around in the
> page fault path, but I know that it had it's own method for
> page cache lookups and pte mapping, nor that it had it's own
> truncate race checks to ensure it didn't map pages invalidated by
> truncate into the PTEs.

<nod> Thanks for the explanation.

/me wonders if someone could please check all the *_ops that point to
generic helpers to see if we're missing obvious things like lock
taking.  Particularly someone who wants to learn about xfs' locking
strategy; I promise it won't let out a ton of bees.

Reviewed-by: Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com>

--D


> There's so much technical debt hidden in the kernel code base. The
> fact we're still finding places that assume only truncate can
> invalidate the page cache over a file range indicates just how deep
> this debt runs...
> 
> -Dave.
> -- 
> Dave Chinner
> david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-29 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-23  5:20 [PATCH] xfs: use MMAPLOCK around filemap_map_pages() Dave Chinner
2020-06-23  8:54 ` Amir Goldstein
2020-06-23  9:40   ` Dave Chinner
2020-06-23 19:47 ` Brian Foster
2020-06-23 21:19 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-23 22:14   ` Dave Chinner
2020-06-29 17:00     ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2020-06-30 15:23       ` Amir Goldstein
2020-06-30 18:26         ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-30 22:46           ` Dave Chinner
2020-06-30 18:27 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-09-12  6:19 ` More filesystem need this fix (xfs: use MMAPLOCK around filemap_map_pages()) Amir Goldstein
2020-09-12  6:19   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-09-14 11:35   ` Jan Kara
2020-09-14 12:29     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2020-09-14 12:29       ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2020-09-16 15:58   ` Jan Kara
2020-09-17  1:44     ` Dave Chinner
2020-09-17  2:04       ` Hugh Dickins
2020-09-17  2:04         ` Hugh Dickins
2020-09-17  6:45         ` Dave Chinner
2020-09-17  7:47           ` Hugh Dickins
2020-09-17  7:47             ` Hugh Dickins
2020-09-21  8:26             ` Dave Chinner
2020-09-21  9:11               ` Jan Kara
2020-09-21 16:20                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21 16:20                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21 17:59                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-22  7:54                     ` Jan Kara
2020-09-17  3:01       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-17  5:37       ` Nikolay Borisov
2020-09-17  7:40         ` Jan Kara

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