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Shutemov" , Michael Ellerman , Linus Torvalds , Gautham R Shenoy , Satheesh Rajendran , David Hildenbrand Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/3] mm/page_alloc: Keep memoryless cpuless node 0 offline Message-ID: <20200630040125.GA31617@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Reply-To: Srikar Dronamraju References: <20200624092846.9194-1-srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20200624092846.9194-4-srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.235,18.0.687 definitions=2020-06-29_21:2020-06-29,2020-06-29 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 mlxlogscore=999 bulkscore=0 mlxscore=0 adultscore=0 clxscore=1015 phishscore=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 suspectscore=0 cotscore=-2147483648 spamscore=0 impostorscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2004280000 definitions=main-2006300021 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Christopher Lameter [2020-06-29 14:58:40]: > On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, Srikar Dronamraju wrote: > > > Currently Linux kernel with CONFIG_NUMA on a system with multiple > > possible nodes, marks node 0 as online at boot. However in practice, > > there are systems which have node 0 as memoryless and cpuless. > > Maybe add something to explain why you are not simply mapping the > existing memory to NUMA node 0 which is after all just a numbering scheme > used by the kernel and can be used arbitrarily? > I thought Michal Hocko already gave a clear picture on why mapping is a bad idea. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200316085425.GB11482@dhcp22.suse.cz/t/#u Are you suggesting that we add that as part of the changelog? > This could be seen more as a bug in the arch code during the setup of NUMA > nodes. The two nodes are created by the firmwware / bootstrap code after > all. Just do not do it? > - The arch/setup code in powerpc is not onlining these nodes. - Later on cpus/memory in node 0 can be onlined. - Firmware in this case Phyp is an independent code by itself. -- Thanks and Regards Srikar Dronamraju From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3140C433DF for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2020 04:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [203.11.71.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 945B2206BE for ; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.235, 18.0.687 definitions=2020-06-29_21:2020-06-29, 2020-06-29 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 mlxlogscore=999 bulkscore=0 mlxscore=0 adultscore=0 clxscore=1015 phishscore=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 suspectscore=0 cotscore=-2147483648 spamscore=0 impostorscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2004280000 definitions=main-2006300021 X-BeenThere: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Srikar Dronamraju Cc: Gautham R Shenoy , Michal Hocko , David Hildenbrand , Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, Satheesh Rajendran , Mel Gorman , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Andrew Morton , linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Vlastimil Babka Errors-To: linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "Linuxppc-dev" * Christopher Lameter [2020-06-29 14:58:40]: > On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, Srikar Dronamraju wrote: > > > Currently Linux kernel with CONFIG_NUMA on a system with multiple > > possible nodes, marks node 0 as online at boot. However in practice, > > there are systems which have node 0 as memoryless and cpuless. > > Maybe add something to explain why you are not simply mapping the > existing memory to NUMA node 0 which is after all just a numbering scheme > used by the kernel and can be used arbitrarily? > I thought Michal Hocko already gave a clear picture on why mapping is a bad idea. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200316085425.GB11482@dhcp22.suse.cz/t/#u Are you suggesting that we add that as part of the changelog? > This could be seen more as a bug in the arch code during the setup of NUMA > nodes. The two nodes are created by the firmwware / bootstrap code after > all. Just do not do it? > - The arch/setup code in powerpc is not onlining these nodes. - Later on cpus/memory in node 0 can be onlined. - Firmware in this case Phyp is an independent code by itself. -- Thanks and Regards Srikar Dronamraju