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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jarod Wilson <jarod@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] bonding driver terminology change proposal
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 15:41:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200713154118.3a1edd66@hermes.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200713220016.xy4n7c5uu3xs6dyk@lion.mk-sys.cz>

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 00:00:16 +0200
Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 02:51:39PM -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote:
> > To start out with, I'd like to attempt to eliminate as much of the use
> > of master and slave in the bonding driver as possible. For the most
> > part, I think this can be done without breaking UAPI, but may require
> > changes to anything accessing bond info via proc or sysfs.  
> 
> Could we, please, avoid breaking existing userspace tools and scripts?
> Massive code churn is one thing and we could certainly bite the bullet
> and live with it (even if I'm still not convinced it would be as great
> idea as some present it) but trading theoretical offense for real and
> palpable harm to existing users is something completely different.
> 
> Or is "don't break userspace" no longer the "first commandment" of linux
> kernel development?
> 
> Michal Kubecek

Please consider using same wording as current standard for link aggregration.
Current version is 802.1AX and it uses the terms:
  Multiplexer /  Aggregator

There are no uses of master or slave in 802.1Ax standard.

As far as userspace, maybe keep the old API's but provide deprecation nags.
And don't document the old API values.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-13 22:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-13 18:51 [RFC] bonding driver terminology change proposal Jarod Wilson
2020-07-13 21:36 ` Eric Dumazet
2020-07-14 18:01   ` Jarod Wilson
2020-07-13 22:00 ` Michal Kubecek
2020-07-13 22:41   ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2020-07-14  0:09     ` Michal Kubecek
2020-07-14  0:26     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-07-16  3:04       ` Jarod Wilson
2020-07-16  3:18         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-07-16  5:43           ` Jarod Wilson
2020-08-13  3:42             ` Jarod Wilson
2020-07-14  0:55     ` Jay Vosburgh
2020-07-14 18:15       ` Jarod Wilson
2020-07-15 12:56     ` Edward Cree
2020-07-15 19:23       ` Jarod Wilson
2020-07-14  1:00   ` David Miller
2020-07-16  3:06     ` Jarod Wilson
2020-07-16 18:59       ` David Miller
2020-07-16 23:01         ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-07-14 18:04   ` Jarod Wilson
2020-07-14  0:51 ` David Miller
2020-07-14 19:17 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-07-14 20:39   ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2020-07-14 21:24     ` Jarod Wilson

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