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From: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
To: Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Evgenii Shatokhin <eshatokhin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>,
	Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	arjan@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/10] Function Granular KASLR
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 15:38:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200803193837.GB30810@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc6d2289-af97-5cf8-a4bb-77c2b0b8375c@redhat.com>

Hi -

> > While this does seem to be the right solution for the extant problem, I
> > do want to take a moment and ask if the function sections need to be
> > exposed at all? What tools use this information, and do they just want
> > to see the bounds of the code region? (i.e. the start/end of all the
> > .text* sections) Perhaps .text.* could be excluded from the sysfs
> > section list?

> [[cc += FChE, see [0] for Evgenii's full mail ]]

Thanks!

> It looks like debugging tools like systemtap [1], gdb [2] and its
> add-symbol-file cmd, etc. peek at the /sys/module/<MOD>/section/ info.
> But yeah, it would be preferable if we didn't export a long sysfs
> representation if nobody actually needs it.

Systemtap needs to know base addresses of loaded text & data sections,
in order to perform relocation of probe point PCs and context data
addresses.  It uses /sys/module/...., kind of under protest, because
there seems to exist no MODULE_EXPORT'd API to get at that information
some other way.

- FChE


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-03 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-17 16:59 [PATCH v4 00/10] Function Granular KASLR Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 16:59 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] objtool: Do not assume order of parent/child functions Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 16:59 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] x86: tools/relocs: Support >64K section headers Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] x86/boot: Allow a "silent" kaslr random byte fetch Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] x86: Makefile: Add build and config option for CONFIG_FG_KASLR Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] x86: Make sure _etext includes function sections Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] x86/tools: Add relative relocs for randomized functions Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] x86/boot/compressed: Avoid duplicate malloc() implementations Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] x86: Add support for function granular KASLR Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] kallsyms: Hide layout Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-20  1:25   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-20 16:59     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-20 16:59       ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-17 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] module: Reorder functions Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-28 17:29   ` Jessica Yu
2020-07-22  9:27 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] Function Granular KASLR Miroslav Benes
2020-07-22  9:27   ` Miroslav Benes
2020-07-22 14:39   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-22 14:51     ` Joe Lawrence
2020-07-22 14:56       ` Joe Lawrence
2020-07-22 18:24         ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-22 18:24           ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-22 16:07     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-07-22 19:42       ` Kees Cook
2020-07-22 19:56         ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-22 19:56           ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-07-22 21:33           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-08-21 23:02             ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-21 23:02               ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-25 16:16               ` Joe Lawrence
2020-08-28 10:21               ` Miroslav Benes
2020-08-28 10:21                 ` Miroslav Benes
2020-08-28 19:24                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-23 22:59                   ` Fangrui Song
2021-01-25 17:21                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-08-03 11:39   ` Evgenii Shatokhin
2020-08-03 17:45     ` Kees Cook
2020-08-03 18:17       ` Joe Lawrence
2020-08-03 19:38         ` Frank Ch. Eigler [this message]
2020-08-03 20:11           ` Kees Cook
2020-08-03 21:12             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-08-03 21:41               ` Kees Cook
2020-08-04  0:48                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-08-04 17:04         ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-04 18:23 ` Joe Lawrence
2020-08-07 16:38   ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-07 16:38     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-07 17:20     ` Kees Cook
2020-08-10 16:10       ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-10 16:10         ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-12 17:18   ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-12 17:18     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-06 15:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2020-08-06 19:24   ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-06 19:24     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-08-06 19:27   ` Kees Cook

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