From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B34C433E0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 14:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0543F2070B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 14:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726937AbgHJOQu (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:16:50 -0400 Received: from l2mail1.panix.com ([166.84.1.75]:50004 "EHLO l2mail1.panix.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726932AbgHJOQu (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:16:50 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 1106 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:16:48 EDT Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by l2mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BQHcH3MG6zF78 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 09:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from panix5.panix.com (panix5.panix.com [166.84.1.5]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BQHcF2qpgz1nS4; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 09:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by panix5.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 415) id 4BQHcF3LcjzfYm; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 09:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 09:58:21 -0400 From: Thor Lancelot Simon To: Larry Dwyer Cc: Michael Kerrisk , austin-group-l@opengroup.org, Carlos O'Donell , Zack Weinberg , Florian Weimer , Paul Eggert , Andrew Josey , Joseph Myers , linux-man , Geoff Clare , Elliot Hughes , libc-alpha Subject: Re: Pseudoterminal terminology in POSIX Message-ID: <20200810135821.GA11918@panix.com> References: <6425d636-7f48-3a73-ef0e-7bb5b991360c@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6425d636-7f48-3a73-ef0e-7bb5b991360c@gmail.com> Sender: linux-man-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 04:18:10PM -0700, Larry Dwyer via austin-group-l at The Open Group wrote: > How about the "control" side and the "terminal" side (of the paired device > files)? How about the "pty side" and the "tty side"? It seems hard to be more neutral than that and we can be sure there is no ambiguity. Thor