From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4B3C433E3 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE25208A9 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729976AbgHTQwS (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:52:18 -0400 Received: from verein.lst.de ([213.95.11.211]:43074 "EHLO verein.lst.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729701AbgHTQwR (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:52:17 -0400 Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 48F9168AFE; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:52:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:52:13 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Tomasz Figa Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Robin Murphy , alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, Linux Doc Mailing List , nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , "James E.J. Bottomley" , linux-mm@kvack.org, Marek Szyprowski , linux-samsung-soc , Joonyoung Shim , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Kyungmin Park , Ben Skeggs , Matt Porter , Linux Media Mailing List , Tom Lendacky , Pawel Osciak , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , "list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS" , Joerg Roedel , "list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS , Joerg Roedel ," , Thomas Bogendoerfer , linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, Seung-Woo Kim , linux-mips@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/28] media/v4l2: remove V4L2-FLAG-MEMORY-NON-CONSISTENT Message-ID: <20200820165213.GC12693@lst.de> References: <20200819065555.1802761-1-hch@lst.de> <20200819065555.1802761-6-hch@lst.de> <62e4f4fc-c8a5-3ee8-c576-fe7178cb4356@arm.com> <2b32f1d8-16f7-3352-40a5-420993d52fb5@arm.com> <20200820050214.GA4815@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Sender: linux-parisc-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 12:24:31PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote: > > Of course this still uses the scatterlist structure with its annoying > > mix of input and output parametes, so I'd rather not expose it as > > an official API at the DMA layer. > > The problem with the above open coded approach is that it requires > explicit handling of the non-IOMMU and IOMMU cases and this is exactly > what we don't want to have in vb2 and what was actually the job of the > DMA API to hide. Is the plan to actually move the IOMMU handling out > of the DMA API? > > Do you think we could instead turn it into a dma_alloc_noncoherent() > helper, which has similar semantics as dma_alloc_attrs() and handles > the various corner cases (e.g. invalidate_kernel_vmap_range and > flush_kernel_vmap_range) to achieve the desired functionality without > delegating the "hell", as you called it, to the users? Yes, I guess I could do something in that direction. At least for dma-iommu, which thanks to Robin should be all you'll need in the foreseeable future. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AECC433DF for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 08:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alsa0.perex.cz (alsa0.perex.cz [77.48.224.243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D091220732 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 08:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=alsa-project.org header.i=@alsa-project.org header.b="MVWi+eQC" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org D091220732 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Received: from alsa1.perex.cz (alsa1.perex.cz [207.180.221.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B00C16CE; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:59:33 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 alsa0.perex.cz 3B00C16CE DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=alsa-project.org; s=default; t=1597996823; bh=X0ORiFKrWP0s649SyWVIij8iYQogdHWVg0rWlAHt9tU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: From; b=MVWi+eQC8jPpmqGxMcakCY7W6XenOemc4McniqEWZJmVJHbyNTXVXUJC7IuIEBWWX wn5TOiD/J1Ka+62LAo7ksXJqJi8WlE2X6XN6Kjx1xswd9JFwBiuhbRZarnMMHfFB+R O7qMiXDIbadOnJ0UZVzw4dlauuP15bzZvQvF3f1U= Received: from alsa1.perex.cz (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7422F804CF; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:37:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix, from userid 50401) id 74FCAF80228; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:52:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from verein.lst.de (verein.lst.de [213.95.11.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DDF7F800D3 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:52:14 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 alsa1.perex.cz 3DDF7F800D3 Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 48F9168AFE; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:52:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:52:13 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Tomasz Figa Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/28] media/v4l2: remove V4L2-FLAG-MEMORY-NON-CONSISTENT Message-ID: <20200820165213.GC12693@lst.de> References: <20200819065555.1802761-1-hch@lst.de> <20200819065555.1802761-6-hch@lst.de> <62e4f4fc-c8a5-3ee8-c576-fe7178cb4356@arm.com> <2b32f1d8-16f7-3352-40a5-420993d52fb5@arm.com> <20200820050214.GA4815@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:36:15 +0200 Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, Linux Doc Mailing List , nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, "James E.J. Bottomley" , linux-mm@kvack.org, Christoph Hellwig , Marek Szyprowski , linux-samsung-soc , Joonyoung Shim , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Joerg Roedel , "list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS" , Ben Skeggs , Matt Porter , Linux Media Mailing List , Tom Lendacky , Pawel Osciak , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , "list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS , Joerg Roedel , " , Thomas Bogendoerfer , linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, Seung-Woo Kim , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Kyungmin Park , Robin Murphy X-BeenThere: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Alsa-devel mailing list for ALSA developers - http://www.alsa-project.org" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: "Alsa-devel" On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 12:24:31PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote: > > Of course this still uses the scatterlist structure with its annoying > > mix of input and output parametes, so I'd rather not expose it as > > an official API at the DMA layer. > > The problem with the above open coded approach is that it requires > explicit handling of the non-IOMMU and IOMMU cases and this is exactly > what we don't want to have in vb2 and what was actually the job of the > DMA API to hide. Is the plan to actually move the IOMMU handling out > of the DMA API? > > Do you think we could instead turn it into a dma_alloc_noncoherent() > helper, which has similar semantics as dma_alloc_attrs() and handles > the various corner cases (e.g. invalidate_kernel_vmap_range and > flush_kernel_vmap_range) to achieve the desired functionality without > delegating the "hell", as you called it, to the users? Yes, I guess I could do something in that direction. At least for dma-iommu, which thanks to Robin should be all you'll need in the foreseeable future. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christoph Hellwig Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/28] media/v4l2: remove V4L2-FLAG-MEMORY-NON-CONSISTENT Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:52:13 +0200 Message-ID: <20200820165213.GC12693@lst.de> References: <20200819065555.1802761-1-hch@lst.de> <20200819065555.1802761-6-hch@lst.de> <62e4f4fc-c8a5-3ee8-c576-fe7178cb4356@arm.com> <2b32f1d8-16f7-3352-40a5-420993d52fb5@arm.com> <20200820050214.GA4815@lst.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-ia64-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Tomasz Figa Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Robin Murphy , alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, Linux Doc Mailing List , nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , "James E.J. Bottomley" , linux-mm@kvack.org, Marek Szyprowski , linux-samsung-soc , Joonyoung Shim , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Kyungmin Park , Ben Skeggs , Matt Porter , Linux Media Mailing List , Tom Lendacky List-Id: nouveau.vger.kernel.org On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 12:24:31PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote: > > Of course this still uses the scatterlist structure with its annoying > > mix of input and output parametes, so I'd rather not expose it as > > an official API at the DMA layer. > > The problem with the above open coded approach is that it requires > explicit handling of the non-IOMMU and IOMMU cases and this is exactly > what we don't want to have in vb2 and what was actually the job of the > DMA API to hide. Is the plan to actually move the IOMMU handling out > of the DMA API? > > Do you think we could instead turn it into a dma_alloc_noncoherent() > helper, which has similar semantics as dma_alloc_attrs() and handles > the various corner cases (e.g. invalidate_kernel_vmap_range and > flush_kernel_vmap_range) to achieve the desired functionality without > delegating the "hell", as you called it, to the users? Yes, I guess I could do something in that direction. At least for dma-iommu, which thanks to Robin should be all you'll need in the foreseeable future. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B2AC433DF for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hemlock.osuosl.org (smtp2.osuosl.org [140.211.166.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23A8F207DE for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:17 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 23A8F207DE Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=iommu-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hemlock.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062A78791E; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from hemlock.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZKGTfIgUPzMw; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.linuxfoundation.org (lf-lists.osuosl.org [140.211.9.56]) by hemlock.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B45487824; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lf-lists.osuosl.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824DCC0889; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hemlock.osuosl.org (smtp2.osuosl.org [140.211.166.133]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D49C0051 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hemlock.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225C88791E for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from hemlock.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JthKybfFmjWX for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from verein.lst.de (verein.lst.de [213.95.11.211]) by hemlock.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8133487824 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 48F9168AFE; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:52:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:52:13 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Tomasz Figa Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/28] media/v4l2: remove V4L2-FLAG-MEMORY-NON-CONSISTENT Message-ID: <20200820165213.GC12693@lst.de> References: <20200819065555.1802761-1-hch@lst.de> <20200819065555.1802761-6-hch@lst.de> <62e4f4fc-c8a5-3ee8-c576-fe7178cb4356@arm.com> <2b32f1d8-16f7-3352-40a5-420993d52fb5@arm.com> <20200820050214.GA4815@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, Linux Doc Mailing List , nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, "James E.J. Bottomley" , linux-mm@kvack.org, Christoph Hellwig , linux-samsung-soc , Joonyoung Shim , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, "list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS" , Ben Skeggs , Matt Porter , Linux Media Mailing List , Tom Lendacky , Pawel Osciak , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , "list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS , Joerg Roedel , " , Thomas Bogendoerfer , linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, Seung-Woo Kim , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Kyungmin Park , Robin Murphy X-BeenThere: iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues for Linux IOMMU support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: iommu-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org Sender: "iommu" On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 12:24:31PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote: > > Of course this still uses the scatterlist structure with its annoying > > mix of input and output parametes, so I'd rather not expose it as > > an official API at the DMA layer. > > The problem with the above open coded approach is that it requires > explicit handling of the non-IOMMU and IOMMU cases and this is exactly > what we don't want to have in vb2 and what was actually the job of the > DMA API to hide. Is the plan to actually move the IOMMU handling out > of the DMA API? > > Do you think we could instead turn it into a dma_alloc_noncoherent() > helper, which has similar semantics as dma_alloc_attrs() and handles > the various corner cases (e.g. invalidate_kernel_vmap_range and > flush_kernel_vmap_range) to achieve the desired functionality without > delegating the "hell", as you called it, to the users? Yes, I guess I could do something in that direction. At least for dma-iommu, which thanks to Robin should be all you'll need in the foreseeable future. _______________________________________________ iommu mailing list iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/iommu From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FC6C433DF for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org [205.233.59.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E61B2072D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lists.infradead.org header.i=@lists.infradead.org header.b="0P4/tCuy" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 5E61B2072D Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Cc:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post:List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=QmjRv2KrA9GoMt5Fj0ky59IhkqrRkbsqz2JKsAStUFs=; b=0P4/tCuyclAlXtCEHznk1gheF hCTbtFu32R7Nen3Y7UxIeT5e+SsUxSQXn2DnNJdzCL42bqmHTY4j+H7xxjafUfTt63pVn++r3fEII Myi5ZE7HvZPuuAroPv4AvsGX/710WF/Fqyo7bu1Na+zyXw//k8EI9zT3jCQf5FNSczzC1XrMYABD/ 4SalIr8roy4djGVscyTQs1oJtyJ96QH/BZYh7ly99M5Gj05BluMF9xF+pvrQZ+1bkwjrrLI0ZwsQj heMkDSuJK+7VMy1lRTJpVXXcoJAENVNUFzrP7rxnniLlTxKpUrdi+6T7pNztxswmowLqy0hJllH/8 1jUvoye9g==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=merlin.infradead.org) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1k8nnV-0002O7-5n; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:17 +0000 Received: from verein.lst.de ([213.95.11.211]) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1k8nnS-0002N7-Vy; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:15 +0000 Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 48F9168AFE; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:52:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:52:13 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Tomasz Figa Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/28] media/v4l2: remove V4L2-FLAG-MEMORY-NON-CONSISTENT Message-ID: <20200820165213.GC12693@lst.de> References: <20200819065555.1802761-1-hch@lst.de> <20200819065555.1802761-6-hch@lst.de> <62e4f4fc-c8a5-3ee8-c576-fe7178cb4356@arm.com> <2b32f1d8-16f7-3352-40a5-420993d52fb5@arm.com> <20200820050214.GA4815@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20200820_125215_177966_1881D663 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 17.83 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, Linux Doc Mailing List , nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, "James E.J. Bottomley" , linux-mm@kvack.org, Christoph Hellwig , Marek Szyprowski , linux-samsung-soc , Joonyoung Shim , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Joerg Roedel , "list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS" , Ben Skeggs , Matt Porter , Linux Media Mailing List , Tom Lendacky , Pawel Osciak , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , "list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS , Joerg Roedel , " , Thomas Bogendoerfer , linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, Seung-Woo Kim , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Kyungmin Park , Robin Murphy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 12:24:31PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote: > > Of course this still uses the scatterlist structure with its annoying > > mix of input and output parametes, so I'd rather not expose it as > > an official API at the DMA layer. > > The problem with the above open coded approach is that it requires > explicit handling of the non-IOMMU and IOMMU cases and this is exactly > what we don't want to have in vb2 and what was actually the job of the > DMA API to hide. Is the plan to actually move the IOMMU handling out > of the DMA API? > > Do you think we could instead turn it into a dma_alloc_noncoherent() > helper, which has similar semantics as dma_alloc_attrs() and handles > the various corner cases (e.g. invalidate_kernel_vmap_range and > flush_kernel_vmap_range) to achieve the desired functionality without > delegating the "hell", as you called it, to the users? Yes, I guess I could do something in that direction. At least for dma-iommu, which thanks to Robin should be all you'll need in the foreseeable future. _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christoph Hellwig Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:52:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/28] media/v4l2: remove V4L2-FLAG-MEMORY-NON-CONSISTENT Message-Id: <20200820165213.GC12693@lst.de> List-Id: References: <20200819065555.1802761-1-hch@lst.de> <20200819065555.1802761-6-hch@lst.de> <62e4f4fc-c8a5-3ee8-c576-fe7178cb4356@arm.com> <2b32f1d8-16f7-3352-40a5-420993d52fb5@arm.com> <20200820050214.GA4815@lst.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Tomasz Figa Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Robin Murphy , alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, Linux Doc Mailing List , nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , "James E.J. Bottomley" , linux-mm@kvack.org, Marek Szyprowski , linux-samsung-soc , Joonyoung Shim , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Kyungmin Park , Ben Skeggs , Matt Porter , Linux Media Mailing List , Tom Lendacky , Pawel Osciak , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , "list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS" , Joerg Roedel , "list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS , Joerg Roedel ," , Thomas Bogendoerfer , linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, Seung-Woo Kim , linux-mips@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 12:24:31PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote: > > Of course this still uses the scatterlist structure with its annoying > > mix of input and output parametes, so I'd rather not expose it as > > an official API at the DMA layer. > > The problem with the above open coded approach is that it requires > explicit handling of the non-IOMMU and IOMMU cases and this is exactly > what we don't want to have in vb2 and what was actually the job of the > DMA API to hide. Is the plan to actually move the IOMMU handling out > of the DMA API? > > Do you think we could instead turn it into a dma_alloc_noncoherent() > helper, which has similar semantics as dma_alloc_attrs() and handles > the various corner cases (e.g. invalidate_kernel_vmap_range and > flush_kernel_vmap_range) to achieve the desired functionality without > delegating the "hell", as you called it, to the users? Yes, I guess I could do something in that direction. At least for dma-iommu, which thanks to Robin should be all you'll need in the foreseeable future.