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From: Alex Dewar <alex.dewar90@gmail.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	Alex Dewar <alex.dewar90@gmail.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
	accessrunner-general@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: atm: don't use snprintf() for sysfs attrs
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 14:18:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200827131819.7rcl2f5js3hkoqj2@lenovo-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200827071537.GA168593@kroah.com>

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 09:15:37AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 08:42:06AM +0200, Rasmus Villemoes wrote:
> > On 25/08/2020 00.23, Alex Dewar wrote:
> > > kernel/cpu.c: don't use snprintf() for sysfs attrs
> > > 
> > > As per the documentation (Documentation/filesystems/sysfs.rst),
> > > snprintf() should not be used for formatting values returned by sysfs.
> > >
> > 
> > Sure. But then the security guys come along and send a patch saying
> > "sprintf is evil, always pass a buffer bound". Perhaps with a side of
> > "this code could get copy-pasted, better not promote the use of sprintf
> > more than strictly necessary".
> > 
> > Can we have a sysfs_sprintf() (could just be a macro that does sprintf)
> > to make it clear to the next reader that we know we're in a sysfs show
> > method? It would make auditing uses of sprintf() much easier.
> 
> Code churn to keep code checkers quiet for pointless reasons?  What
> could go wrong with that...
> 
> It should be pretty obvious to any reader that you are in a sysfs show
> method, as almost all of them are trivially tiny and obvious.  Yes, it
> doesn't help with those that make blanket statements like "sprintf is
> evil", but I think that kind of just shows them that they shouldn't be
> making foolish blanket statements like that :)

Perhaps I should have mentioned this in the commit message, but the problem
is that snprintf() doesn't return the number of bytes written to the
destination buffer, but the number of bytes that *would have been written if
they fitted*, which may be more than the bounds specified [1]. So "return
snprintf(...)" for sysfs attributes is an antipattern. If you need bounded
string ops, scnprintf() is the way to go. Using snprintf() can give a
false sense of security, because it isn't necessarily safe.

[1] https://github.com/KSPP/linux/issues/105

> 
> Anyway, we've had this for 20 years, if sysfs calls are the only left
> remaining user of sprintf(), then I'll be glad to consider using a
> "wrapper" function or macro.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-27 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-24 22:23 [PATCH] usb: atm: don't use snprintf() for sysfs attrs Alex Dewar
2020-08-25  8:12 ` David Laight
2020-08-25  8:17   ` Alex Dewar
2020-08-25  9:07     ` David Laight
2020-08-25  8:24   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-08-27 16:49     ` Kees Cook
2020-08-27 17:45       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-08-27  6:42 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-08-27  7:15   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-08-27 13:18     ` Alex Dewar [this message]
2020-08-27 13:41       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-08-27 14:48         ` Alex Dewar
2020-08-27 16:58           ` Joe Perches
2020-08-27 16:58             ` [Cocci] " Joe Perches
2020-08-27 19:42             ` Julia Lawall
2020-08-27 19:42               ` Julia Lawall
2020-08-27 20:29               ` Joe Perches
2020-08-27 20:29                 ` Joe Perches
2020-08-27 21:00                 ` Joe Perches
2020-08-27 21:00                   ` Joe Perches
2020-08-27 21:29                 ` Julia Lawall
2020-08-27 21:29                   ` Julia Lawall
2020-08-27 22:03                 ` David Laight
2020-08-27 22:03                   ` David Laight
2020-08-27 22:11                   ` Joe Perches
2020-08-27 22:11                     ` Joe Perches
2020-08-27 22:16                     ` Kees Cook
2020-08-27 22:16                       ` Kees Cook
2020-08-27 21:01               ` Denis Efremov
2020-08-27 21:01                 ` Denis Efremov
2020-08-27 21:36                 ` Julia Lawall
2020-08-27 21:36                   ` Julia Lawall
2020-08-27 21:44                   ` Joe Perches
2020-08-27 21:44                     ` Joe Perches
2020-08-27 22:38                     ` Denis Efremov
2020-08-27 22:38                       ` Denis Efremov
2020-08-27 22:48                       ` Joe Perches
2020-08-27 22:48                         ` Joe Perches
2020-08-27 22:20                 ` Kees Cook
2020-08-27 22:20                   ` Kees Cook
2020-08-27 22:45                   ` Joe Perches
2020-08-27 22:45                     ` Joe Perches
2020-08-28  4:12                     ` Joe Perches
2020-08-28  4:12                       ` Joe Perches
2020-08-28  7:58                       ` Kees Cook
2020-08-28  7:58                         ` Kees Cook
2020-08-28  8:10                         ` Joe Perches
2020-08-28  8:10                           ` Joe Perches
2020-08-28  8:22                           ` Joe Perches
2020-08-28  8:22                             ` Joe Perches
2020-08-28  7:39                   ` David Laight
2020-08-28  7:39                     ` David Laight
2020-08-27 21:54             ` David Laight
2020-08-27 21:54               ` [Cocci] " David Laight

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