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From: John Wood <john.wood@gmx.com>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	John Wood <john.wood@gmx.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 5/6] security/fbfam: Detect a fork brute force attack
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 18:56:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200913152724.GB2873@ubuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez2fP7yupg6Th+Hg0tL3o06p2PR1HtQcvy4Ro+Q5T2Nfkw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 02:01:56AM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:49 AM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 01:21:06PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > > diff --git a/fs/coredump.c b/fs/coredump.c
> > > index 76e7c10edfc0..d4ba4e1828d5 100644
> > > --- a/fs/coredump.c
> > > +++ b/fs/coredump.c
> > > @@ -51,6 +51,7 @@
> > >  #include "internal.h"
> > >
> > >  #include <trace/events/sched.h>
> > > +#include <fbfam/fbfam.h>
> > >
> > >  int core_uses_pid;
> > >  unsigned int core_pipe_limit;
> > > @@ -825,6 +826,7 @@ void do_coredump(const kernel_siginfo_t *siginfo)
> > >  fail_creds:
> > >       put_cred(cred);
> > >  fail:
> > > +     fbfam_handle_attack(siginfo->si_signo);
> >
> > I don't think this is the right place for detecting a crash -- isn't
> > this only for the "dumping core" condition? In other words, don't you
> > want to do this in get_signal()'s "fatal" block? (i.e. very close to the
> > do_coredump, but without the "should I dump?" check?)
> >
> > Hmm, but maybe I'm wrong? It looks like you're looking at noticing the
> > process taking a signal from SIG_KERNEL_COREDUMP_MASK ?
> >
> > (Better yet: what are fatal conditions that do NOT match
> > SIG_KERNEL_COREDUMP_MASK, and should those be covered?)
> >
> > Regardless, *this* looks like the only place without an LSM hook. And it
> > doesn't seem unreasonable to add one here. I assume it would probably
> > just take the siginfo pointer, which is also what you're checking.
>
> Good point, making this an LSM might be a good idea.
>
> > e.g. for include/linux/lsm_hook_defs.h:
> >
> > LSM_HOOK(int, 0, task_coredump, const kernel_siginfo_t *siginfo);
>
> I guess it should probably be an LSM_RET_VOID hook? And since, as you
> said, it's not really semantically about core dumping, maybe it should
> be named task_fatal_signal or something like that.

If I understand correctly you propose to add a new LSM hook without return
value and place it here:

diff --git a/kernel/signal.c b/kernel/signal.c
index a38b3edc6851..074492d23e98 100644
--- a/kernel/signal.c
+++ b/kernel/signal.c
@@ -2751,6 +2751,8 @@ bool get_signal(struct ksignal *ksig)
                        do_coredump(&ksig->info);
                }

+               // Add the new LSM hook here
+
                /*
                 * Death signals, no core dump.
                 */

Thanks,
John Wood


  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-13 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-10 20:21 [RESEND][RFC PATCH 0/6] Fork brute force attack mitigation (fbfam) Kees Cook
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] security/fbfam: Add a Kconfig to enable the fbfam feature Kees Cook
2020-09-10 21:21   ` Jann Horn
2020-09-10 21:21     ` Jann Horn
2020-09-17 17:32     ` John Wood
2020-09-10 23:18   ` Kees Cook
2020-09-17 18:40     ` John Wood
2020-09-17 22:05       ` Kees Cook
2020-09-18 14:50         ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] security/fbfam: Add the api to manage statistics Kees Cook
2020-09-10 23:23   ` Kees Cook
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] security/fbfam: Use " Kees Cook
2020-09-10 20:27   ` Jann Horn
2020-09-10 20:27     ` Jann Horn
2020-09-10 23:33   ` Kees Cook
2020-09-29 23:47     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-29 23:49       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-10-03  9:52         ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] security/fbfam: Add a new sysctl to control the crashing rate threshold Kees Cook
2020-09-10 23:14   ` Kees Cook
2020-09-13 14:33     ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] security/fbfam: Detect a fork brute force attack Kees Cook
2020-09-10 21:10   ` Jann Horn
2020-09-10 21:10     ` Jann Horn
2020-09-13 17:54     ` John Wood
2020-09-14 19:42       ` Jann Horn
2020-09-14 19:42         ` Jann Horn
2020-09-15 18:44         ` John Wood
2020-09-10 23:49   ` Kees Cook
2020-09-11  0:01     ` Jann Horn
2020-09-11  0:01       ` Jann Horn
2020-09-13 16:56       ` John Wood [this message]
2020-09-14 19:39         ` Jann Horn
2020-09-14 19:39           ` Jann Horn
2020-09-15 17:36           ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] security/fbfam: Mitigate " Kees Cook
2020-09-10 20:55   ` Jann Horn
2020-09-10 20:55     ` Jann Horn
2020-09-10 23:56   ` Kees Cook
2020-09-11  0:20     ` Jann Horn
2020-09-11  0:20       ` Jann Horn
2020-09-18 16:02     ` John Wood
2020-09-18 21:35       ` Kees Cook
2020-09-19  8:01         ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:39 ` [RESEND][RFC PATCH 0/6] Fork brute force attack mitigation (fbfam) Jann Horn
2020-09-10 20:39   ` Jann Horn
2020-09-10 23:58 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-11 14:48   ` John Wood
2020-09-12  7:55     ` Kees Cook
2020-09-12 12:24       ` John Wood
2020-09-12  0:03 ` James Morris
2020-09-12  7:56   ` Kees Cook
2020-09-12  9:36     ` John Wood
2020-09-12 14:47       ` Mel Gorman
2020-09-12 20:48         ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2020-09-12 20:48           ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2020-09-13  7:24           ` John Wood
2020-09-13  7:24             ` John Wood

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