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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: peterz@infradead.org
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Joerg Vehlow <lkml@jv-coder.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Joerg Vehlow <joerg.vehlow@aox-tech.de>,
	dave@stgolabs.net
Subject: Re: [BUG RT] dump-capture kernel not executed for panic in interrupt context
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 15:00:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200914150049.309e985c@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200907114140.GQ2674@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 13:41:40 +0200
peterz@infradead.org wrote:

> > I may have once known the rationale behind all this, but it's been a
> > long time since I worked on the PI code, and it's out of my cache.  

Now I'm trying to cache all this in from a long PTO ;-)

> 
> I suffer much the same problem.
> 
> So cenceptually there's the problem that idle must always be runnable,
> and the moment you boost it, it becomes subject to a different
> scheduling class.
> 
> Imagine for example what happens when we boost it to RT and then have it
> be subject to throttling. What are we going to run when the idle task
> is no longer elegible to run.
> 
> (it might all work out by accident, but ISTR we had a whole bunch of fun
> in the earlier days of RT due to things like that)

I'm thinking if a mutex_trylock() happens in an interrupt context, which I
believe is the only way idle could trigger it, it could not be throttled if
boosted, because it's in interrupt context. And it would have to release
the mutex before leaving interrupt context putting it back to the idle
state before throttling could take effect.

Thus, I'm still not convinced that mutex_trylock() is still bad in interrupt
context yet. At least not from what I can tell.

-- Steve

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-14 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-28 11:41 [BUG RT] dump-capture kernel not executed for panic in interrupt context Joerg Vehlow
2020-05-28 12:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-22  4:30   ` Joerg Vehlow
2020-07-22 20:51     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-27 23:36     ` Andrew Morton
2020-08-21 10:25       ` Joerg Vehlow
2020-08-21 15:08         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 20:47           ` Andrew Morton
2020-08-21 21:03             ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-22 12:32               ` peterz
2020-08-22 23:49                 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-07 11:41                   ` peterz
2020-09-07 12:49                     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-09-14 19:00                     ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2020-09-07 10:51               ` Joerg Vehlow
2020-09-07 11:46                 ` peterz
2020-09-07 12:03                   ` Joerg Vehlow
2020-09-07 16:23                     ` peterz
2020-09-08  5:48                       ` Joerg Vehlow
2020-09-09  5:46                         ` Joerg Vehlow
2020-09-11 22:48                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-09-14  6:03                             ` Joerg Vehlow
2020-09-14 16:46                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-09-14 16:46                                 ` Eric W. Biederman

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