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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, RCU <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Theodore Y . Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Oleksiy Avramchenko <oleksiy.avramchenko@sonymobile.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC-PATCH 2/4] mm: Add __rcu_alloc_page_lockless() func.
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 17:16:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200924151625.GA19013@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200924111632.GD2628@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 01:16:32PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 10:16:14AM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > Other option is if we had unconditionally enabled PREEMPT_COUNT config.
> > It would be easy to identify a context type and invoke a page allocator
> > if a context is preemtale. But as of now preemptable() is "half" working.
> > Thomas uploaded patches to make it unconditional. But it can be blocked.
> 
> While I in principle support Thomas' patch, I think this is an abuse and
> still complete wrong.
> 
Good that you support it :)

>
> Not all preemptible() context can deal with GFP_KERNEL (GFP_NOFS
> existing should be a clue). !preemptible context cannot unconditionally
> deal with GFP_NOWAIT, consider using it while holding zone->lock.
> 
Not sure if i fully follow you here. What i tried to express, if we had
preemtable() fully working, including !PREEMPT, we can at least detect
the following:

if (!preemptable())
    by pass using any ATOMIC/NOWAIT flags because they do not work;

as an example you mentioned z->lock that is sleepable.

>
> The preemption context does not say antying much useful about the
> allocation context.
>
I am talking about taking a decision. 

--
Vlad Rezki

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-24 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-18 19:48 [PATCH 0/4] kvfree_rcu() and _LOCK_NESTING/_PREEMPT_RT Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-18 19:48 ` [PATCH 1/4] rcu/tree: Add a work to allocate pages from regular context Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-18 19:48 ` [RFC-PATCH 2/4] mm: Add __rcu_alloc_page_lockless() func Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-21  7:47   ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-21 15:45     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-21 16:03       ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-21 19:48         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-22  7:50           ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-22 13:12             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-22 15:35               ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-23 10:37               ` Mel Gorman
2020-09-23 15:41                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-23 23:22                   ` Mel Gorman
2020-09-24  8:16                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-24 11:16                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 15:16                         ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2020-09-24 11:19                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 15:21                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-25  8:15                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-25 10:25                             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-24 15:38                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-25  8:26                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-26 14:37                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-25  8:05                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-25 15:31                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-25 15:47                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-29 16:25                             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30  9:27                               ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 12:35                                 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 12:44                                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 13:39                                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 16:46                                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 20:36                                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 15:25                             ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-30 16:48                               ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 17:03                                 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-30 17:03                                   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-30 17:22                                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 17:48                                     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-30 17:48                                       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-25 16:17                           ` Mel Gorman
2020-09-25 17:57                             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-22 15:49             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-22  3:35         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-22  8:03           ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-22 15:46             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-23 11:27               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-29 10:15   ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-09-29 22:07     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 10:35       ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-01 19:32         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 14:39       ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-09-30 15:37         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-01 19:26         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-02  7:11           ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-02  8:50             ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-02  9:05               ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-05 15:08                 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-05 15:41                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-06 22:25                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-07 10:02                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-07 11:02                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-02  9:07               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-02  9:45                 ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-02  9:58                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-02 10:19                     ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-02 14:41                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-06 10:03                         ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-06 15:41                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 13:58             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-02  8:06           ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-05 14:12             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-18 19:48 ` [PATCH 3/4] rcu/tree: use " Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-18 19:48 ` [PATCH 4/4] rcu/tree: Use schedule_delayed_work() instead of WQ_HIGHPRI queue Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-20 15:06   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-21 13:27     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-18 22:15 ` [PATCH 0/4] kvfree_rcu() and _LOCK_NESTING/_PREEMPT_RT Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-30 15:52 ` Joel Fernandes

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