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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Daniel Henrique Barboza <danielhb413@gmail.com>
Cc: qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, groug@kaod.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] spapr_numa: translate regular NUMA distance to PAPR distance
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 12:35:24 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200925023524.GQ2298@yekko.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200924195058.362984-4-danielhb413@gmail.com>

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On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 04:50:55PM -0300, Daniel Henrique Barboza wrote:
> QEMU allows the user to set NUMA distances in the command line.
> For ACPI architectures like x86, this means that user input is
> used to populate the SLIT table, and the guest perceives the
> distances as the user chooses to.
> 
> PPC64 does not work that way. In the PAPR concept of NUMA,
> associativity relations between the NUMA nodes are provided by
> the device tree, and the guest kernel is free to calculate the
> distances as it sees fit. Given how ACPI architectures works,
> this puts the pSeries machine in a strange spot - users expect
> to define NUMA distances like in the ACPI case, but QEMU does
> not have control over it. To give pSeries users a similar
> experience, we'll need to bring kernel specifics to QEMU
> to approximate the NUMA distances.
> 
> The pSeries kernel works with the NUMA distance range 10,
> 20, 40, 80 and 160. The code starts at 10 (local distance) and
> searches for a match in the first NUMA level between the
> resources. If there is no match, the distance is doubled and
> then it proceeds to try to match in the next NUMA level. Rinse
> and repeat for MAX_DISTANCE_REF_POINTS levels.
> 
> This patch introduces a spapr_numa_PAPRify_distances() helper
> that translates the user distances to kernel distance, which
> we're going to use to determine the associativity domains for
> the NUMA nodes.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Daniel Henrique Barboza <danielhb413@gmail.com>

The idea of rounding the distances like this seems pretty good to me.
Since each level is a multiple of a distance from the preivous one it
might be more theoretically correct to place the thresholds at the
geometric mean between each level, rather than the arithmetic mean.  I
very much doubt it makes much different in practice though, and this
is simpler.

There is one nit, I'm less happy with though..

> ---
>  hw/ppc/spapr_numa.c | 44 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 44 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/hw/ppc/spapr_numa.c b/hw/ppc/spapr_numa.c
> index fe395e80a3..990a5fce08 100644
> --- a/hw/ppc/spapr_numa.c
> +++ b/hw/ppc/spapr_numa.c
> @@ -37,6 +37,49 @@ static bool spapr_numa_is_symmetrical(MachineState *ms)
>      return true;
>  }
>  
> +/*
> + * This function will translate the user distances into
> + * what the kernel understand as possible values: 10
> + * (local distance), 20, 40, 80 and 160. Current heuristic
> + * is:
> + *
> + *  - distances between 11 and 30 inclusive -> rounded to 20
> + *  - distances between 31 and 60 inclusive -> rounded to 40
> + *  - distances between 61 and 120 inclusive -> rounded to 80
> + *  - everything above 120 -> 160
> + *
> + * This step can also be done in the same time as the NUMA
> + * associativity domains calculation, at the cost of extra
> + * complexity. We chose to keep it simpler.
> + *
> + * Note: this will overwrite the distance values in
> + * ms->numa_state->nodes.
> + */
> +static void spapr_numa_PAPRify_distances(MachineState *ms)
> +{
> +    int src, dst;
> +    int nb_numa_nodes = ms->numa_state->num_nodes;
> +    NodeInfo *numa_info = ms->numa_state->nodes;
> +
> +    for (src = 0; src < nb_numa_nodes; src++) {
> +        for (dst = src; dst < nb_numa_nodes; dst++) {
> +            uint8_t distance = numa_info[src].distance[dst];
> +            uint8_t rounded_distance = 160;
> +
> +            if (distance > 11 && distance <= 30) {
> +                rounded_distance = 20;
> +            } else if (distance > 31 && distance <= 60) {
> +                rounded_distance = 40;
> +            } else if (distance > 61 && distance <= 120) {
> +                rounded_distance = 80;
> +            }
> +
> +            numa_info[src].distance[dst] = rounded_distance;
> +            numa_info[dst].distance[src] = rounded_distance;

..I don't love the fact that we alter the distance table in place.
Even though it was never exposed to the guest, I'd prefer not to
destroy the information the user passed in.  It could lead to
surprising results with QMP introspection, and it may make future
extensions more difficult.

So I'd prefer to either (a) just leave the table as is and round
on-demand with a paprify_distance(NN) -> {20,40,80,..} type function,
or (b) create a parallel, spapr local, table with the rounded
distances

> +        }
> +    }
> +}
> +
>  void spapr_numa_associativity_init(SpaprMachineState *spapr,
>                                     MachineState *machine)
>  {
> @@ -95,6 +138,7 @@ void spapr_numa_associativity_init(SpaprMachineState *spapr,
>          exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
>      }
>  
> +    spapr_numa_PAPRify_distances(machine);
>  }
>  
>  void spapr_numa_write_associativity_dt(SpaprMachineState *spapr, void *fdt,

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-25  3:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-24 19:50 [PATCH v2 0/6] pseries NUMA distance calculation Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-09-24 19:50 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] spapr: add spapr_machine_using_legacy_numa() helper Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-09-24 19:50 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] spapr_numa: forbid asymmetrical NUMA setups Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-09-25  2:36   ` David Gibson
2020-09-25  3:48   ` David Gibson
2020-09-25 12:41     ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-09-26  7:49       ` David Gibson
2020-09-27 11:41         ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-09-28  6:25           ` David Gibson
2020-09-24 19:50 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] spapr_numa: translate regular NUMA distance to PAPR distance Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-09-25  2:35   ` David Gibson [this message]
2020-09-25 12:44     ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-09-24 19:50 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] spapr_numa: change reference-points and maxdomain settings Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-09-25  2:38   ` David Gibson
2020-09-25 13:16   ` Greg Kurz
2020-09-24 19:50 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] spapr_numa: consider user input when defining associativity Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-09-25  3:39   ` David Gibson
2020-09-25 14:42     ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-09-24 19:50 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] specs/ppc-spapr-numa: update with new NUMA support Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-09-25  3:43   ` David Gibson

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