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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
Cc: "Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>, "Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Linux ARM" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Pawel Osciak" <pawel@osciak.com>,
	"Marek Szyprowski" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	"Kyungmin Park" <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	"Inki Dae" <inki.dae@samsung.com>,
	"Joonyoung Shim" <jy0922.shim@samsung.com>,
	"Seung-Woo Kim" <sw0312.kim@samsung.com>,
	linux-samsung-soc <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK"
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Oded Gabbay" <oded.gabbay@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm/frame-vec: use FOLL_LONGTERM
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 10:14:28 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201007131428.GQ5177@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAFQd5DkzxeHmHvipMR2YgDVC1uZrvVWgyWWYdyEM=yCOM7HwQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 03:06:17PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote:

> Note that vb2_vmalloc is only used for in-kernel CPU usage, e.g. the
> contents being copied by the driver between vb2 buffers and some
> hardware FIFO or other dedicated buffers. The memory does not go to
> any hardware DMA.

That is even worse, the CPU can't just blindly touch VM_IO pages, that
isn't portable.

> Could you elaborate on what "the REQUIRED behavior is"? I can see that
> both follow the get_vaddr_frames() -> frame_vector_to_pages() flow, as
> you mentioned. Perhaps the only change needed is switching to
> pin_user_pages after all?

It is the comment right on top of get_vaddr_frames():

  if @start belongs to VM_IO | VM_PFNMAP vma, we don't
  touch page structures and the caller must make sure pfns aren't
  reused for anything else while he is using them.

Which means excluding every kind of VMA that is not something this
driver understands and then using special knowledge of the
driver-specific VMA to assure the above.

For instance if you could detect the VMA is from a carevout and do
something special like hold the fget() while knowning that the struct
file guarentees the carveout remains reserved - then you could use
follow_pfn.

But it would be faster and better to ask the carveout FD for the vaddr
range.

Jason

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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
Cc: "Oded Gabbay" <oded.gabbay@gmail.com>,
	"Inki Dae" <inki.dae@samsung.com>,
	linux-samsung-soc <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Joonyoung Shim" <jy0922.shim@samsung.com>,
	"Pawel Osciak" <pawel@osciak.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Seung-Woo Kim" <sw0312.kim@samsung.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Kyungmin Park" <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"open list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK"
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Linux ARM" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Marek Szyprowski" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm/frame-vec: use FOLL_LONGTERM
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 10:14:28 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201007131428.GQ5177@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAFQd5DkzxeHmHvipMR2YgDVC1uZrvVWgyWWYdyEM=yCOM7HwQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 03:06:17PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote:

> Note that vb2_vmalloc is only used for in-kernel CPU usage, e.g. the
> contents being copied by the driver between vb2 buffers and some
> hardware FIFO or other dedicated buffers. The memory does not go to
> any hardware DMA.

That is even worse, the CPU can't just blindly touch VM_IO pages, that
isn't portable.

> Could you elaborate on what "the REQUIRED behavior is"? I can see that
> both follow the get_vaddr_frames() -> frame_vector_to_pages() flow, as
> you mentioned. Perhaps the only change needed is switching to
> pin_user_pages after all?

It is the comment right on top of get_vaddr_frames():

  if @start belongs to VM_IO | VM_PFNMAP vma, we don't
  touch page structures and the caller must make sure pfns aren't
  reused for anything else while he is using them.

Which means excluding every kind of VMA that is not something this
driver understands and then using special knowledge of the
driver-specific VMA to assure the above.

For instance if you could detect the VMA is from a carevout and do
something special like hold the fget() while knowning that the struct
file guarentees the carveout remains reserved - then you could use
follow_pfn.

But it would be faster and better to ask the carveout FD for the vaddr
range.

Jason

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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
Cc: linux-samsung-soc <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Joonyoung Shim" <jy0922.shim@samsung.com>,
	"Pawel Osciak" <pawel@osciak.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Seung-Woo Kim" <sw0312.kim@samsung.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Kyungmin Park" <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"open list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK"
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Linux ARM" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Marek Szyprowski" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm/frame-vec: use FOLL_LONGTERM
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 10:14:28 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201007131428.GQ5177@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAFQd5DkzxeHmHvipMR2YgDVC1uZrvVWgyWWYdyEM=yCOM7HwQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 03:06:17PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote:

> Note that vb2_vmalloc is only used for in-kernel CPU usage, e.g. the
> contents being copied by the driver between vb2 buffers and some
> hardware FIFO or other dedicated buffers. The memory does not go to
> any hardware DMA.

That is even worse, the CPU can't just blindly touch VM_IO pages, that
isn't portable.

> Could you elaborate on what "the REQUIRED behavior is"? I can see that
> both follow the get_vaddr_frames() -> frame_vector_to_pages() flow, as
> you mentioned. Perhaps the only change needed is switching to
> pin_user_pages after all?

It is the comment right on top of get_vaddr_frames():

  if @start belongs to VM_IO | VM_PFNMAP vma, we don't
  touch page structures and the caller must make sure pfns aren't
  reused for anything else while he is using them.

Which means excluding every kind of VMA that is not something this
driver understands and then using special knowledge of the
driver-specific VMA to assure the above.

For instance if you could detect the VMA is from a carevout and do
something special like hold the fget() while knowning that the struct
file guarentees the carveout remains reserved - then you could use
follow_pfn.

But it would be faster and better to ask the carveout FD for the vaddr
range.

Jason
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Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-02 17:53 [PATCH 1/2] mm/frame-vec: Drop gup_flags from get_vaddr_frames() Daniel Vetter
2020-10-02 17:53 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-02 17:53 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-02 17:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/frame-vec: use FOLL_LONGTERM Daniel Vetter
2020-10-02 17:53   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-02 17:53   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-02 18:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-02 18:06     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-02 18:06     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-02 18:16     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-02 18:16       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-02 18:16       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-02 23:31       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-02 23:31         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-02 23:31         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-03  8:34         ` Oded Gabbay
2020-10-03  8:34           ` Oded Gabbay
2020-10-03  8:34           ` Oded Gabbay
2020-10-03  9:40         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-03  9:40           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-03  9:40           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-04 12:50           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-04 12:50             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-04 12:50             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-04 16:09             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-04 16:09               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-04 16:09               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 17:28               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 17:28                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 17:28                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 18:16                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 18:16                   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 18:16                   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 18:37                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 18:37                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 18:37                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 18:54                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 18:54                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 18:54                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 22:43                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 22:43                         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 22:43                         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 23:41                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 23:41                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 23:41                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-06  6:23                           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06  6:23                             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06  6:23                             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06 12:26                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-06 12:26                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-06 12:26                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-06 13:08                               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06 13:08                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06 13:08                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 10:47           ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-10-07 10:47             ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-10-07 10:47             ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-10-07 12:01             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 12:01               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 12:01               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 12:33               ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-10-07 12:33                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-10-07 12:33                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-10-07 12:44                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 12:44                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 12:44                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 12:47                   ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 12:47                     ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 12:47                     ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 12:58                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 12:58                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 12:58                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 13:06                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 13:06                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 13:06                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 13:34                         ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 13:34                           ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 13:34                           ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 13:42                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 13:42                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 13:42                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 14:08                           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 14:08                             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 14:08                             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 14:11                             ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 14:11                               ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 14:11                               ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 14:22                               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 14:22                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 14:22                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 15:05                                 ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 15:05                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 15:05                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 14:58                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 14:58                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 14:58                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 13:06         ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 13:06           ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 13:06           ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 13:14           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-10-07 13:14             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 13:14             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 15:03     ` Jan Kara
2020-10-05 15:03       ` Jan Kara
2020-10-05 15:03       ` Jan Kara
2020-10-02 22:39   ` John Hubbard
2020-10-02 22:39     ` John Hubbard
2020-10-02 22:39     ` John Hubbard
2020-10-03  9:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-03  9:45       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-03  9:45       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-03 22:52       ` John Hubbard
2020-10-03 22:52         ` John Hubbard
2020-10-03 22:52         ` John Hubbard
2020-10-03 23:24         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-03 23:24           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-03 23:24           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-04 11:20           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-04 11:20             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-04 11:20             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 17:35             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 17:35               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 17:35               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-02 18:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/frame-vec: Drop gup_flags from get_vaddr_frames() Tomasz Figa
2020-10-02 18:22   ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-02 18:22   ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-02 18:22   ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-02 19:21   ` Oded Gabbay
2020-10-02 19:21     ` Oded Gabbay
2020-10-02 19:21     ` Oded Gabbay
2020-10-02 19:21     ` Oded Gabbay
2020-10-05 17:38 [PATCH 2/2] mm/frame-vec: use FOLL_LONGTERM Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 17:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 17:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 17:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 17:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-06  3:36   ` Andrew Morton
2020-10-06  3:36     ` Andrew Morton
2020-10-06  3:36     ` Andrew Morton
2020-10-06 11:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-06 11:57       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-06 11:57       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 17:53 ` Jan Kara
2020-10-05 17:53   ` Jan Kara
2020-10-05 17:53   ` Jan Kara
2020-10-05 17:57   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 17:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 17:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 18:16     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 18:16       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 18:16       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 18:16       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06 11:56     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06 11:56       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06 11:56       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06 11:56       ` Daniel Vetter

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